Trump calls Obama "Founder of ISIS"

Maybe Trump just likes trashing Obama ... who doesn't?

 

Someone said, "tell a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Just because you believe that he is lying, doesn't make it true.

Political correctness has gotten to a point where if you tell the truth, then everyone thinks it's a lie.

His campaign is about free speech, you know that first amendment that made America great in the first place?

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You have no issues with Clinton trashing Trump. Do you have a problem with gender?

 

Barack Obama told reporters “We are training ISIL.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/flashback-video-barack-obama-training-isil/

 

Trump isn't exactly wrong on that,not by a longshot.

 

It's amazing how Trump can't grasp that the people who buy this kind of ignorant rhetoric are already voting for him. He needs to desperately do something to get new voters. Maybe show signs of empathy or acting like a normal human being.

 

Leave it to Trump supporters for not understanding basic English words, lol. He is 100% wrong about Obama being the founder of ISIS.

 

Trump as usual doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. We all know who the founder of ISIS is; http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/ This guys a certified (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

So you base your vote and support based on a slip of the tongue?

How vapid

http://www.snopes.com/obama-isil-training/

 

Trump is right in a metaphorical way.

It was the support given for the violent overthrow of Syria's government that permitted ISIS to take territory in Syria and then sweep into Iraq.

Obama and Clinton are directly responsible for that, and, to that extent, they are the founders of ISIS. Not technically the founders, but responsible.

 

In order to understand who really is responsible, you must go back to the early days before, during, and right after the U.S. occupation in Iraq. It had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Syrian government. The overthrow of the Syrian government was simply the same strategy Zarqawi used back in Iraq, that catapulted sectarian violence, which was what Zarqawi wanted. To create civil war in Iraq is to disrupt the American occupation and blame them for their own civil war Zarqawi produced.

If the CIA had taken out Zarqawi back then, it's very likely we wouldn't have ISIS now. But when Zarqawi was finally killed, his terrorist organization fled and dispersed. Unbeknownst to the U.S. that small group that escaped into Syria, would later become Zarqawi's surrogates, or ISIS. Obama, Clinton, Bush, or anyone on either side of the aisle ever mentioned an insurgency uprising up rooted from such a small number of Zarqawi followers later on. So no, Obama and Clinton aren't responsible, this man is responsible; http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-secret-history-of-isis/

 

I agree with you actually, Obama isn't the founder, he is ISIS godfather.

 

Yes, ISIS was founded in 1966 by Obama in Hawaii when he was 5 years old.

 

Many of the facts you mentioned about the early days of ISIS (which was AQI during the Iraq war) are actually correct. But in both the cases of Iraq and Syria, actually creating a viable fighting force and taking territory were not possible while Saddam had control over Iraq, or while Assad had control over Syria.

And this is a pattern that we can see all over the Muslim world. Where governments are able to exert strong control, these groups don't have the ability to consolidate, arm up, and pose a viable threat to the established government. We virtually always see radical Muslim groups like AQ, ISIS, the taliban, Boko Harram, and Shabbab gain power and territory in places where government control is weak or non-existent. The examples are Afghanistan, the northern tribal areas of Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and in central Africa. Where governments have strong military and police structures in place, these groups may be able to pull off terrorist attacks here and there, but they are unable to seize control of any significance. Examples are Saudi Arabia, Turkey, other Gulf States, and Egypt.

So this is why I just believe Obama and Clinton are morons. We had the lessons of Iraq to learn from. And so I knew from the very beginning that the military destruction of governance (also known as "war") against Libya was going to destroy that country and turn it over to radical Islamists. I also knew that this would be the outcome in Syria, and I did not want my country giving diplomatic or military support to the rebels in Syria. I knew, in both cases, that we were opening the door that AQ/AQI/ISIS waits for to open.

I am just a regular citizen except that I read and pay attention. I don't hold a high degree in International Affairs, nor have I made my career in that field. But I knew these things. And so you can just imagine my disrespect for these moronic leaders of ours who didn't know it.

So when Trump calls them the "founders of ISIS", I realize that he doesn't mean they are actual technical founders. As you said, it is people like Zarqawi who founded it technically.

But it is we who opened the door by helping destroy governance and control in yet another Muslim country that is no threat to us. And we did do that once again through violence, with our weapons. We have waged war against Syria, destroying the government's ability to govern, albeit this time through proxies. And who, predictably, took advantage, as they always do, when governance in a Muslim country is destroyed?

What is wrong with our morons?? It is as if there is little more than a block of wood rattling around inside their skulls instead of a brain.

And I think their partisans who refuse to recognize these things are just willfully blind. Willfully. There can be no other excuse or explanation to my mind.

More of my two cents ....

 

Honestly, this is the best news cycle for trump in a while lol

 

The only conclusion that I can come to is that he doesn't want to be President. If he did, he'd be listening to his advisors and all of the other Republicans who've been pleading with him for months to tone it down, to be more disciplined, to study the issues just a little. The fact that he hasn't -- other than the occasional hostage-video speech like we saw on Monday -- tells me that he's not actually interested in the job. He just wants to have fun. The unhinged primary campaign was fun. The general election campaign isn't, because now unhinged = tanking poll numbers, and as we know he lives and dies by his poll numbers.

 

Was the the Clinton trashing Trump line a question? I'm not sure what gender has to do with the discussion at all. Hillary can say what she likes about Trump, I can't hear the dog whistles. The fact that she's a woman is irrelevant. She's a shameless opportunist, and prolific liar. She's unfit to serve in any public office, but she is free to comment.

 

It's you who are dense. Trump spoke English clearly, and you didn't hear. You are leaning to literally on the word "founder". I find it part of the left's hilarious hypocrisy: they have been on a campaign to obliterate word meanings for decades now, but suddenly sit and spin on "founder".

Everyone knows that if not the "founders" of Isis, Obama and Hillary were certainly the manure.

 

Really? "Thank God"? Just because Trump is willing to appeal to uneducated white people by making comments about Mexicans and try to shift the blame on Iraq from George W Bush to Obama? Trump has proven that he can barely go a single day without shooting himself in the foot by saying something stupid. He calls Romney a loser but it looks like he will end up doing worse than Romney.

Trump appeals to people who want to "make America white again"

 

That is so laughable and ridiculous it is painful. Really Margot, you come up with some very nonsensical material when trying to apologize for your beloved Saud.

Saud was giving arms and support to the Jihadists in Syria prior to the existence of the modern incarnation of ISIS.

 

So you don't understand English and are a Trump supporter. Makes sense.

No one knows what Trump is talking about in regards to calling Obama the founder of ISIS other than his supporters. And he loves the poorly educated for a reason.

 

Uh......you might want to read this...

"Military Lied About ISIS Intel To Please Obama, Congress Says"

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/10/m...-to-please-obama-congress-says/#ixzz4H6GphRdN

 

He probably couldn't find either place on a map of the world.

 

I wouldn't say he and Hillary were the founders but their policies have allowed them to grow.

 

Trump is showing you EXACTLY what sort of President he would be.

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Trump is insane..............