Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem

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  1. Matt84

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    And you're crying over this because..........?
     
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    That's a fine old comparison you have going there, it really speaks to your character as an American.
     
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    Will he stand for tonight's Thurs Night Football game?!! Cameras will be on him...the coach shud have him go into the locker room during!
     
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    Just heard @San Diego, a BIG military area, suppose to unfurl a giant American flag and honor 6 vets !!
     
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    What if we are in the side of equal rights and equal justice and equal Liberty, but someone else complaining about PERCIEVED oppression and injustice.

    Case and point BLM matter is based on lie. They have never publicly admitted that. They perceive every use of force on a minority to be police brutality and oppression. Not once has BLM ever held any black person responsible for their own criminal actions that led to a use of force.

    Furthermore what most people in that movement consider "justice" isn't justice at all, they want revenge.

    Perfect example: people demanded justice for Freddie gray. He got it. 6 officers were indicted, stood trial and found to be innocent. Justice does not equal punishment. The 6 were found to be innocent. Justice was served.

    But people are still demanding "Justice" for Freddie gray.....

    So I say again, perceived oppression.
     
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    It is possible to love America and at the same time protest those parts where America isn't living up to it's potential. Many of us have children that we dearly love and would die to protect those children. We don't always like what they say or do, but that doesn't mean we love them any less. It's the same with this country. Protesting is the most American thing that Kaepernick can do. Protesting is in the very DNA of America. It's the very foundation of this country. You can argue that his protest is distasteful in it's manner, but you cannot deny that he has a right to do it. Nor can you really say that he hates America. What he has done is pointed out an area in which America can improve and become even greater. And that is something to be lauded and encouraged.
     
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    Heard he knelt for it tonight.
     
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    Kaepernick makes me want to be a conservative. I hate it. I absolutely hate the fact this guy is complaining about the couple cops who have "questionable" encounters with people resisting arrest or trying to kill them... but not mention anything about the 1000s of people being killed by people who aren't police officers or anything about police officers facing danger by the very people he is trying to "stand for". It sickens me. I dislike the stormfront community more than anything but I'll side with them on this any day.
     
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    Colin Kaepernick is doing the right thing and is now receiving support from his black colleagues and the black community in general. The US national anthem is racist and should be changed.
     
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    There was 1 guy who joined him... he's not receiving any positive respect. Because most of us Americans respect those who fought for this country we live in today, where some clown like Kaepernick and his dbag afro can make millions of dollars and cry about being oppressed.
     
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    Why Colin Kaepernick is wrong: It’s not a black-and-white issue
    By Phil Mushnick September 1, 2016


    Dear Colin Kaepernick,

    For what it’s worth, I agree with you. I’m also convinced blacks are America’s most oppressed race. And I’m pleased you’re the latest pro athlete to exploit his or her status to take a stand, yours by sitting during the national anthem.

    But we disagree on who the oppressors are. You believe it’s white America, the America that helped do the once imponderable: elect a black President, and not once, but twice.

    I believe that the greatest oppressors of black Americans are black Americans. And they’re encouraged to continue by a say-what-you-want-to-hear leadership and messengers, from the President to a frightened media, politicians of every office, and activists, both black and white, empowered by their steady unwillingness to tell clear, present and sustaining truths in service of genuine for-the-better change.

    Consider that when a murder or murders of black men, women and children occur in a black neighborhood, its residents are conditioned to be uncooperative with cops and detectives — “snitches get stitches” — in pursuit of the murderer or murderers lest they and their families suffer retaliatory harm, including murder.

    Now that, Colin, that’s oppression. It’s a gangs-as-Gestapo mentality and reality that exists — and rules — within black communities throughout this country.

    Oppression? Colin, you’re one lucky young man to have escaped another epidemic of black-on-black oppression. You were adopted by a man and a woman and raised in a presumably loving, nurturing household. You were raised by two on-the-job parents.

    You beat another common, almost standard reality: black self-oppression.

    You can’t abide by a national anthem that makes you think about the oppression of minorities? Try thinking about the 380,000 Northern soldiers who died in the Civil War primarily fighting to end the enslavement of black men, women and children more than 150 years ago.

    Why, Colin, is American black culture still synonymous — from the abuse of women, to violent crime, to absentee parents, to gangs substituting for families, to “Black Power” politicians who steal from the black poor and pocket it (and often are then reelected) — with sustaining self-oppression?

    Colin, you cited the Black Lives Matter movement as one you support. But logical people of all races wonder why such a noble-titled movement assiduously avoids addressing, let alone protesting, the avalanche of daily and nightly murders of blacks by blacks in virtually every city in this country.

    How is it, Colin, that it doesn’t matter to Black Lives Matter that the blood of black men, women and children daily fills the streets of Newark, Chicago, Detroit, Compton, East St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham and Miami? Why is Black Lives Matter’s outrage, copied from the plan of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and, so sadly, President Obama, so hideously selective?

    Obama says he has suffered the racism of whites locking their cars when he came into view. But don’t most people lock their cars, regardless? Does Obama think cars parked in black neighborhoods sit unlocked?

    Colin, I’m a liberal-in-exile, a disenfranchised Democrat who now often chooses practicality over ideology. Which flight would the ACLU lawyer who sues to prevent profiling choose for his or her family to board? The one that promises no profiling for terrorists or the one that guarantees it?

    During the Trayvon Martin killing calamity in Florida, NBA players wore hoodies to symbolize the stereotyping that inspired Martin’s assailant, George Zimmerman.

    Yet in the months before and after that NBA protest, crimes commonly were committed — and still are — by those who tried to obscure their identities beneath hoodies.

    As those NBA protests occurred, an episode of “Bait Car,” which tracks cops as they pursue car thieves, appeared. This particular segment followed Officer Price of the Atlanta PD, who rode up at a red light alongside two young black men.

    “I see two males riding with hoodies on their head, and it’s nice and warm,” said Price. “I’m suspicious.”

    When he tried to pull over the car, a chase was on.

    “I called it,” said Price, as he hit the gas. The perps, ages 16 and 17, lost control of the stolen car, slamming into a house.
    For what it’s worth, Colin, Officer Price is black. And, for what it’s worth, Colin, black police officers are no more eager to go home dead than are white ones.

    For what it’s worth, Colin, we agree: The oppression of black Americans remains staggering. But those slave ships haven’t arrived here in over 150 years. The oppression of American blacks is primarily perpetrated by American blacks.

    And I further agree, Colin, the oppression of American blacks must stop.
     
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    Aren't you Canadian? Why would you care? It's not your anthem...
     
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    I'll put it out there straight up like this:Mulatto million-dollar making football player has ONS.
    Now you just go on and figure out for yourself what ONS means.
    The last word is Syndrome and the first is Oppressed.
    Yes it's something I realized when I was about 18,that was more than a decade ago.
    There's always that one doofus.Kaepernick is it in this situation.
    Meanwhile the rest of us black and white people are just going to go on with life and be happy. :nana:
    I pretty much thought up the concept of ONS when I was 18.It is a thing.
    It's a disease some get.
    It's that guy that's reading the Malcom X book and it takes him a week and a half.
    Or that guy that gives you problems just because you're white.(That didn't work out well for him) Those 5 big black women I used to help cornered him and told him to stop,I believe one of ums hand was raised back at one point.
    You are what you make of yourself.End of story.
     
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    I have just read that he has decided to donate a million dollars for communities in need. No doubt, as I said before, his handlers told him that he had better put his money where his mouth is in order to try to make this go away. But I don't think it will go away. We will have to see if he really does it or not.
    I also read that he wears pig socks that look like policemen. This guy needs help.
     
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    It's much more likely he's feeling guilty for earning multi-millions playing a kids game with so much poverty going on with black people. All the same I wouldn't look for him to keep it up after the publicity dies down.
     
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    If you are Canadian, why do you care so much about what goes on here? Your country has racist elements in it and you are over 80% white. Get on the horn to Trudeau.
     
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    Colin's mom was white. He was adopted by two white parents, after his own parents didn't want him. He was given all of the opportunities this country has to offer. Made it to the NFL! Now after being benched, he feels rejected. So he makes it about race. Grows an an afro and jumps in with Black Lives Matter. He is having an identity crisis and needs to see a shrink, but don't drag the rest of us into it.
     
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    Who said his bio mom didnt want him?
     
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    Here's more:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/03/police-union-threatening-to-boycott-49ers-games/




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    Santa Clara Police may sit out the San Francisco 49ers game over quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the national anthem.

    The Santa Clara Police Officer’s Association (SCPOA) is threatening its officers may refuse to work future 49ers games at Levi’s Stadium if the organization fails to take action against Kaepernick, in a letter reported on by NBC Bay Area.

    The letter, which is addressed to 49ers CEO Jed York, says, “The 49ers organization has taken no action to stop or prevent Mr. Kaepernick from continuing to make inaccurate, incorrect and inflammatory statements against police officers, which include members of the Santa Clara Police Officers Association.

    “Furthermore, your organization has made no statement disagreeing with Mr. Kaepernick’s accusations.”


    SCPOA’s letter declared its members unanimously agree that the 49ers’ lack of response is a failure, and warns continued lack of action, “could result in police officers choosing not to work at your facilities.”

    The Santa Clara Police Department is responsible for providing security at the 49ers’ Levi’s Stadium, according to NBC Bay Area. The agency typically staffs about 70 officers during games.

    Kaepernick has been in hot water with law enforcement nationwide since refusing to stand for the anthem, wearing socks depicting cops as pigs and criticizing police training.

    “Someone that’s holding a curling iron has more education and training than people that have a gun and are going out on the street to protect us,” the quarterback said.


    Kaerpernick’s comments prompted a sheriff’s office in California to invite him to attend courses at its academy, so he could experience how intense police training is. (RELATED: Sheriff’s Office Invites Kaepernick To Spend A Day In A Cop’s Shoes)

    The 49ers play the Rams Monday. It is unclear how many police officers will volunteer to work the event.

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    Tags: Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers, Santa Clara


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/03/police-union-threatening-to-boycott-49ers-games/#ixzz4JEmSmZYe
     
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    I hope it doesn't. He had more ideas than just Black people. He also spoke about why we are watching, basically, a racist and a criminal try to get into the White House. How anyone could side with either Trump or Hillary is beyond me, but whatever.

    It could be Bert and Ernie up there, and they'd still be like "Bernie's just telling it like it is."
     
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    Was he speaking of himself or others.
     
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    We had a conversation in which you asked how do people know if he donates money and time to chaities. I said at the time that the media would be all over it if he has. I also said that he had better put his money where his big mouth is if he wants to be taken seriously. It looks as though his handlers thought the same thing. Now he says that he will donate a million dollars to communities in need. Since he may be cut, we will see if he really does it or hopes people will forget he said it. He had better dump his girlfriend because it looks as though she is a bad influence.
     
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    He donated one mil and he wasn't cut. Now what?
     
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    She gave him up for adoption.
     

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