9th Circuit Says Medical Marijuana Cardholders Have No Second Amendment Rights

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if I say anyone that is prescribed this drug can't join a religion... then that is unconstitutional

    heck, I think it's unconstitutional to ban non Indians from partaking in the Peyote religion.... why should practicing a religion be dependent on your race?

    can we ban guns for anyone belonging to the Peyote religion?

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  2. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Is that drug illegal under federal law?
    The fact that a doctor prescribes it doesn't change its legal status.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, unless your the right race...

    crazy Conservative Christians have tried to kill the Peyote religion by making Peyote a Scheduled one substance, they do not care about the Constitution

    so can we ban Guns from anyone belonging to the Peyote Religion?


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    No... period.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so your saying we can we ban Guns from anyone belonging to the Peyote Religion?
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I said that?
    Cite, please.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    you see the question mark at the end, that means it's a question, feel free to answer it or not... your choice
     
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    "So.....?" begs the question.
     
  9. FreshAir

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    so you wont answer, but I will

    I am pro 2nd Amendment, so I say that anyone of the Peyote Religion that does the Sceduled one substance known as Peyote should still be able to own guns, as that is their constitutional right to do so
     
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    Do they use illegal drugs?
    If so, the federal law disagrees with you.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought based on your signature you would agree with me rather then an unconstitutional law restricting the 2nd Amendment?

    your signature in case it changes
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    Do they use illegal drugs? Yes? No?
    If yes, then federal law disagrees with you.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Déjà vu

    I thought based on your signature you would agree with me rather then an unconstitutional law restricting the 2nd Amendment? Yes? No?

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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I do not understand why you refuse to understand that if you use illegal drugs, you cannot legally buy a gun. Period.
     
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    That's 'cuz you also support dopers.

    Dope is for losers.
     
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    I thought I made that clear

    because I am pro 2nd Amendment, so I say that anyone of the Peyote Religion that does the Scheduled one substance known as Peyote should still be able to own guns, as that is their constitutional right to do so

    what I do not understand is why you seem to support a law restricting a persons constitutional right to gun ownership based on the legal use of Peyote or not? correct me if I am wrong.....

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    so is Alcohol, but I still support an Adults right to buy Alcohol.....

    I believe in the Freedom to choose for ones self

    prohibitionists support a nanny government where the government decided for you

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    O-M-G....."da gubermint" via the CIA has been flying opiates into this country since the Korean War and laundering the drug money through ALL the big banks. If it wasn't for the cash only business that IS the drug trade perpetuated and protected by USA.INC, the the banks would have trouble keeping the ATMS filled. Looks like to me the banks are being passive aggressive about the legal pot money because their owners feel legalized pot is cutting in on their territory. I wish the people would grow some friggin' balls and start getting pissed about things that actually matter.
     
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    I have never, ever known anyone that lost their temper and wanted to start a fight or assault someone after smoking some doobage...but I could cite numerous experiences in my life of people that did just that from drinking booze......
     
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    100% this. These people love it that the government tells other people what they should or should not be allowed to ingest. It's ridiculous hypocrisy that is almost limitless when it comes to the consumption of marijuana.

    The only reason mary jane ain't legal is because big pharma has lobbied congress and the president to keep it illegal, and stop the people from having true freedom of choice for self medicating.

    It's completely hilarious how absolutely hypocritical the right wing is on this specific issue.
     
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    This brings up an conundrum with me. According to federal law, MJ is an illegal drug. So in this case, Nevada has over ridden federal law by making MJ legal in Nevada. In other words Nevada has nullified federal law because they disagreed with it. So nullification seems alive and well if you're the president and you tell your DOJ not to mess with Nevada which just nullified a federal law. Certainly a case of pick and choose which federal law will be enforce and which will not.

    So my reasoning is thus: If Nevada can over rule, over ride a federal law and make MJ legal in Nevada, Nevada can also over rule, over ride that federal law which makes this woman buying a firearm illegal. Sell the woman her gun. Either the states abide by federal law or they don't. It seems don't is okay, at least in this case.
     
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    Oh... -That- was your rationalization for refusing to understand federal law.
    OK -- thanks.

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    No. MJ is still illegal on NV, under federal law.
    NV won't prosecute, but the federal government still can.
     
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    Which is a stupid, duplicitous, ridiculous way for jurisprudence to function in this nation.
     
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    Same difference. Non prosecution still equates to nullification. In plain English because those in power in Washington and this DOJ agree with Nevada regardless of what federal law states, they ignore and accept nullification of this one particular federal law.

    That could change under a different administration, but nullification of federal MJ laws are pretty much set in stone. It is not what the law states, it is what laws are enforced and which ones are not. Since each difference administration chooses which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore, defacto nullification. I suppose we are no longer a nation of laws.
     
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    Because....?
    Federal laws apply everywhere; state laws apply within a state; that a state does not criminalize something in no way means the federal government cannot.

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    The fact that NV does not prosecute federal law = nullification?
    States do not prosecute federal laws, period.
     

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