I haven't paid much attention lately, can someone name a good law Obama's signed since the start of 2013? If that's too tough, how about the start of 2011?
Time to start paying attention! Or...go to Goggle and ask. Or...if you are not actually asking, but instead trying to make a point here...just make it. For the record...Barack Obama has signed into law every bill passed by the congress with the exception of 10 that he vetoed. None of the 10 were overridden. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislation
Of course I'm making a point. I do pay attention but can't think of any. There are several ways to make a point and I'll endorse any point that makes sense. 1: Obama has done nothing since he lost the Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. 2. Hillary will also achieve nothing unless she gets a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. 3 Republican Senators first elected in 2016 seeking reelection can support their right to a second job not on pushing legislation through, writing new laws or doing anything at all, but only on doing absolutely nothing and a promise to make sure Hillary fails just as badly as Obama. 4. Will such Congressmen stand up to Trump to make sure he achieves nothing legislatively. 5. Will he kill them all if they don't cooperate. 6. If no Obama supporter can think of a law worth mentioning why do they still love him so much. 7. If there are a lot, why haven't we all heard about them. 8. If there are a lot what conspiracy theory has kept the press from mentioning any of them. As you can see there are no good ways to take this thread, but a specific answer or diatribe is welcome. 9. Why should I waste time typing all this when the first post might have been enough for others to debate for 40 pages.
As you can tell from my signature I try my best to concentrate largely on the positve characteristics of a person.......... and perhaps the number one compliment that I would have to give to President Obama is that I feel that he and his administration responded with generally more wisdom to the economic crisis of 2009 than I suspect that the G. O. P. might have done, based on some of what they were saying????! I could be incorrect about this..... I am no expert....... I am a Canadian but I am fairly certain that I would lean G. O. P. if I was American........... but I think that it is important to give President Obama the credit that he does deserve. (My apologies for not being able to think of much of anything more recent)?!
Your response to this topic is indeed exceptional Frank! The signing of the Global Food Security Act of 2016 could well be one of President Obama's greatest accomplishments......IF.... we do not allow enthusiastic and biased sales people from massive companies such as Monsanto...... to force farmers all over the world to adopt methods that are unsustainable over centuries?! Frank, Phil, am I way off track to be such a rabid supporter of organic food vs GMO's? http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/466314-russia-says-no-gmo-seeds.html Russia Says No to GMO Seeds I hate to admit it....... but on the issue of GMO seeds........ Russia is far ahead of us and they deserve credit for this stance! Frankly....... I term myself "pro-life"..... .but if all that is meant by pro-life is to be against third term abortions........ and if I support GMO technology by my silence........ then am I a hypocrite to call myself "pro-life?" http://russia-insider.com/en/busine...-aims-food-supply-thats-cleanest-world/ri8790 Russia Says No to GMO Seeds, Aims for Food Supply That's 'Cleanest in the World'
Obama usually bypasses Congress and the Constitution whenever he issues an executive order, or pays his fellow Islamic terrorists ransom money. I can't really think of any positive law he enacted.
I think he's the weakest two-term President we've had since Grant. I still haven't figured out why he even ran for a second term.... he hasn't even tried to do anything. It's one thing to actually try and pass things but get defeated in Congress - you can look at Harry Truman for an example of that - but it's another thing entirely to just meekly accept getting pushed around the way Obama has. He reminds me of a weak, pitiful giant tied to some Lilliputian beach by a bunch of small-minded obstructionists. If you're going to go down, go down fighting... don't just watch strike three float over the plate.
Gosh, I wonder why you think that? I think he has gotten about as much out of a lousy situation as is possible. He's met with obstruction and hatred the like of which few other presidents have ever had to deal. And he has gone on and on...dealing with the crap put in his path. He's done a fine job of representing our nation on the world stage...and about the only people who feel as you, Cordelier, do about him are the people preparing to give more of the same to Hillary Clinton when she takes over. Okay. No way to prevent it that I can think of. So...obstruct and hate. See if that makes your life seem any more bearable.
I don't buy that, Frank.... other Presidents have been opposed vigorously by Congress - you don't need to look any further than the whole Gingrich vs. Clinton episode to see an example of that. Say what you will, but they never tried to impeach Obama. The rhetoric was just as heated then as it it now.... the only thing is that the President was able to overcome it and get his programs passed despite it. That's how you tell a strong President from a weak President - the strong ones find a way to get things done. They don't just roll over and surrender when the going gets tough. When Clinton got his head handed to him after the '94 mid-terms, everybody was writing him off as a one-term lame duck.... but he got up off the canvas and he hit back. The same with Reagan in the early 80's when the economy was going into a tail-spin and it looked pretty grim for his re-election prospects.... everyone was urging him to go back and change course... but he didn't - he stuck to his guns and he ended up winning a major landslide. Reagan and Clinton both faced Congresses controlled by the other party - the same as Obama has..... the difference was they realized that they weren't going to get anything passed unless they took off the gloves and fought tooth and nail for the programs they believed in. They actually made concrete proposals and they dared the Congress to try and defeat them. They didn't just meekly accept defeat as a foregone conclusion or make it an excuse for not even trying in the first place. I think Obama's failure is all the more tragic because when he came into office during the midst of the economic crisis, he had a once-in-a-generation chance to be a transformational President, in the same way FDR or Reagan was. He was elected as the candidate of change. If he had just concentrated right from the start on tax reform and re-written the Tax Code in the way he saw fit - which was one of main themes of his candidacy - then he could have engineered a stronger and faster economic recovery and given him the momentum to pass the Affordable Healthcare Act he wanted - not the complicated, clap-trap, tinkered together compromise he was forced to accept. So where is the Tax Reform he promised us in 2008?? Did he even propose it? I don't recall it ever seeing the light of day once he became President. Maybe it would have been defeated if he had proposed it after the 2010 mid-terms. Maybe not. But it sure would have been a good fight. And you know what? It definitely won't get passed if it never even gets introduced. You think Reagan or Clinton knew 100% that their programs were going to get passed when they proposed them?? Of course they didn't.... but that didn't stop them, did it? It reminds me of a conversation LBJ had with some of his advisors down at his ranch shortly after he became President... some of them said it was too big a risk to push the Civil Rights bill in 1964 - wait till after the election. He just looked at them and asked, "Then what the hell is the Presidency for??" If you want big rewards, you have to take big risks. You may win some, you may lose some... but no matter how it turns out, always go down swinging. The Obama Presidency is just about played out now.... there's not much to be done about getting much through Congress. But you know what's left? He's still got Merrick Garland's nomination waiting to be acted on.... if Congress leaves for the campaign trail on Oct. 7 and the Senate still hasn't voted on it, I say Obama should give him a recess appointment. The same with the other 50+ judicial nominations the Congress hasn't voted on. He should take them all into the East Room and give them a mass swearing-in. It's a rarely-done thing in this day and age to give a recess appointment to a judicial nominee - there have only been three since the 1960's. Of course, before that it was done routinely.... Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy gave judicial recess appointments to nominees the Senate refused to act on as a matter of course. Of course, back then it was because the judges were pro-civil rights and the Southern dominance of the Judiciary Committee held them up. But regardless, those three Presidents didn't take it lying down. They fought back. And the vast majority of those judicial recess appointments were subsequently confirmed by the next Congress. So let's see what Obama does. I'm betting he does nothing.
Okay...thank you for sharing that. But I stand by what I said. think he has gotten about as much out of a lousy situation as is possible. He's met with obstruction and hatred the like of which few other presidents have ever had to deal...including the ones you mentioned. And he has gone on and on...dealing with the crap put in his path. So...we disagree.
Disagreement is a good thing, though.... this place would be pretty damn boring if we all agreed on everything. *L* I don't blame the Republicans for obstructing.... that's the job of the party not in power. I do blame them for not offering a constructive alternative... but that's up to them. Obama is the President, though - it's not good enough to just throw up your hands and say "Congress is obstructing, there's nothing I can do." That's an excuse. If you want to be a strong and effective President, you have to overcome obstruction. Granted, that's a lot more easily said than done, but whoever said being President was supposed to be easy? You say Obama has gotten as much as he possibly could... I disagree - he could have actually fought for the programs he wanted. Like re-writing the Tax Code... he kept talking about it, but he never actually got around to proposing it. Why not? What was he waiting for? Did he think it was going to write itself? You can't win a fight if you never get in one. You can't lose one either... but that's hardly the stuff of a legendary Presidency, is it? No guts, no glory.
Fair enough... so what do you figure is the most ground-breaking legislative proposal of President Obama's that didn't get passed by Congress?
