Russia: Mossad, other foreign agents killed in Aleppo strike

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The West has been intervening otherwise there wouldn't be a war in Syria. The people would still be living peacefully together as they have for years... The intervention you want though, is one that would not be serving the Syrian people and their needs, but the desires of its neighbors... none of which are known for their humanity or justice.
     
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    BS, these revolts were going around the ME countries they didnt just start in Syria, the west should have helped the FSA back when it was strong, before it had to join forces with the terrorists.
     
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    So tell me, what challenges did Syria pose to America's security, that it should invade and destroy a sovereign nation? The only nation with the legal right to be in Syria is Russia, so why don't the rest of the 'bastards' get the hell out of there and leave the Syrian people alone.
     
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    Russia did not cause the problem in Syria. It was caused by the US, Britain, Israel, France, KSA, Qatar and Turkey. So, how many refugees did Israel take in?

    Russia had no involvement in it, and yet it took in 28,000 Syrians, and that's in addition to the almost 2,000,000 refugees it inherited from Washington's other mess in Ukraine... But Russia unlike the EU, has settled them all nicely, and in areas where their specific abilities can be used. While in the EU they have 65,000 of them sitting in Greek refugee camps, and out of frustration they're burning down the camps and driving the people on the islands crazy.

     
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    Middle East Dynamics.
    3 poles. Royals, Baathist, Islamist/Muslim Brotherhood.

    The Baathists and Royals agreed on one thing, suppression of the Islamist.
    America removes Baathist leaders, Mubarak, Quadaffi, Saddam and weakens Assad
    and there is no "national unity.
    Removing those mean authoritarian Baathist who held their nations together, enough to support its' population was plainly ill thought out. Stupid. Sad for the peoples of those nations.

    Heaven is NOT a democracy
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    Democracy is NOT Heaven.​


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    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.


     
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    I just want to say that I have found this entire thread..fascinating. Well with the exception of Destroyers tacky Talmud quotes and ramblings. Really interesting stuff. If I had to declare a winner.. At this point I'd say Jeanette's team. It irks me when people demand an official acknowledgment of X or Y by Z when it would never happen
    I didn't like our official response from the US when we " missed " seemed so contrived and shallow

    Again great read :)
     
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    There was a second attack on Deir Ez Zor by American jets today.

    I read something interesting by a European who was shocked at the vicious attacks in the Security Council between the US and Russia. He said the ferocity means that there must be a lot more going on than what we are being told.
     
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    They should have acted on a humanitarian base IMO, civil uprising against a dictator that used the army to supress it, they should have acted when he called in Iran and Hizbi forces to help him, but that moment is gone.

    The legal right of a dictator fighting his own ppl is......contrivesal and cursing won't help you, tell your Iranian/Lebanease/Russian friends to get thier forces out and let the Syrians work it out themselves.
     
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    No they didnt but they picked a side for their own intrests

    None of the above caused it either but they too picked a side for their own intersts as well, amazing is'nt it....

    We treat anyone that comes to our borders, the "great devil" was not the destination of those refugees.

    They got involved first with weapons and then with troops, millions of refugees chose not to fight for Assad and not to immigrate to Syria great defender - Russia - which would be surprissing if I was to belive the things you say.

    Im not going in to Ukraine now, Russia may ne treating the refugees better - I dont know but that's not the point I was making, strickly from the refugees perspective they chose to go to those "evil" countries you said planned to destroy Syria and you say the Syrians stand behind Assad - so I find it ilogical
     
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    You can probebly summerise the whole western involvment in the ME as "ill thought out", America did not remove Mubarak - they didnt help him that's all and even if they would have they would probebly fail, Quadaffi and Saddam were mistakes to remove and IMO Assad was a mistake NOT to remove back when there was an effective opposition - not any more.

    I agree Democracy will not work for everyone.
     
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    I don't know how to identify a Mossad and other foreign agents who operate in such a clandestine manner,
    much more to identify them when they are hit by some high explosive ordnance.:)
     
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    The MSM over here haven't had very much to say about that; indeed so little that I'd forgotten all about it, and it happened a couple of weeks ago.

    Just a cotton-pickin' minute - if they've burnt down their camp then where are they living? [​IMG]
     
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    Why they carried their I.D's with them ofc, "official secret agent of the evil emprie", these documents survived the blast in perfect condition, brand new in fact :)
     
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    Watching RT is almost comical at this point, the things they say are just flat out not true.

    Just watched them talk about how great of an investment Europe is compared to the US, then the DB stuff comes out today LOL

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    lol

    Ask her about Bill Gates and the Zika Virus next, its a doozey
     
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    SIGINT.
    Signals Intelligence.

    When a load of Israeli voices come over the radio saying they have just been air struck and are in need of urgent medical assistance, it should be quite obvious to those scanning the airwaves for enemy communications.
     
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    Mubarak was removed via creating economic unrest!
     
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    Lol. I am on no one's team. I am a mercenary for hire.

    Seriously, do you or anyone have any evidence there were Mossad agents sitting around Alleppo? You know how absolutely asinine that is to say?

    First off the IDF has its own soldiers that to scouting in the field they don't use Mossad. At least find out what Mossad is. Mossad I love it is assigned missions all over the world by geniuses on political forums. If it did even 10% of what its accused of doing it would be a super
    force. But hey the more they are puffed up I suppose the more powerful you make them.

    Puffing up Mossad is part of the anti semitic myth making that for example claims Jews own all of the mediua, Hollywood, world banks and how we mind control the Congress because all Americans are brain Zombies placed in a trance by Zionist shapeshifting alien Jews.

    You really think quoting a piece of fabricated crap from Sputnik is evidence of anything? You knbow what Sputnik is?

    Please don't tell me. I know. You love the Globe, the Enquirer, the Star.

    Let me tell you I have a god friend who knows Angelina and she has herpes.

    Can we get real.

    Alleppo has been under siege since 2012. The only people dying in Alleppo are innocent civilians caught between
    rebel and Syrian forces and the Russian air attack.

    A war against humanity is being pepetrated against civilians by Russia and Syria and the best you have is what a
    Sputnik article that ignores who is dying and pretends it was an attack on intelligence officers?

    You even have an idea what intelligence operatives do and where they work from. For God's sakes man, people sit at desks far removed
    from battle using satellite technology and drones. Rebel Syrians or Kurds are dying on the front lines. How many friggin observers from foreign armies do you think need be on the ground with satellite technology or the kinds of cameras they have in fighter jets.

    Let's get real. There's no Team Jeanette and there are no spies or intelligence officers, there are however civilians dying as we speak.

    On the ground Hezbollah and two other Iranian-supported Shiite militias (the Iraqi brigade al-Badr and the enclave's local "National Defense" militia) are fighting Jabhat al-Nusra.

    The Russians are giving air cover to Hezbollah.

    Moscow and Putin are calling the shots with Aleppo at this point.

    They feel it necessary to protect the coastal Alawite area where Russia has installed its logistics bases.

    Russia also believes it must pushthe rebels (primarily Kurds and Al Nusra) out of not just Allepp but Homs, Hama, Latakia, and Damascus.

    Russia's current air war is supposed to cut foreign supply lines to the rebels..

    Turkey flipped back to Russia and Syria and Iran as its allies after it feels ISIS-DAESH and AL NUSRA/Al Quaeda, bioth turned on Erdogan. Erdogan has always been at war with the Kurds.

    Saudi Arabia is the primary financial power behind al Nusra in Syria and Al Quaeda its sister organization in Iraq. Iran finances Assad and Hezbollah.

    Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the Gulf States Saudi Arabia consider Iran the most serious obstacle to peace anad therefore see Syria and Hezbollah
    and Russia as obstacles for supporting Iran. However in spite of Saudi Arabia financing Al Nusra, Al Quaeda is a dead enemy of Israel, Jordan and the Kurds and doesn't much like Egypt so to suggest any of these countries is supporting Al Nusra is garbage.

    Whoever wins its bad news for these countries. The only anti Syrian ally Egypt, Israel, Jordan, the Gulf States truly support at this point
    are the Kurds which necessarily puts them at odds with Iran, Turkey, Syria, Iran who all hate the Kurds.

    The Kurds are coached on the ground by the Canadian Army.

    The NATO air was is hampered by an order from Obama to limit the amount of bombings per day and what can be bombed.

    Supposedly NATO and Russia have an unwritten rule to stay out of each other's air space.

    Israel has a supposed agreement with Russia and NATO that if Hezbollah gets to close to its border, it reserves the right to attack them
    but Israel as a general rule if its doing limited attacks would use helicopters not F15's or 16's as NATO already could do that or ithere is too uch air space clutter to avoid a collision or mistaken identity attack.

    Israel does not mind Russia or NATO taking out anyone especially ISIS.

    Israel with full approval of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, if its air force if either Israel or Jordan is attacked from Syria Iraq or Lebanon. Israel has agreed to stay out of Bahrain and Yemen where the Saudi Air Force is involved but has an unwritten agreement to protect Kuwait or the UAE in the event of an Iranian attack along with the Saudis.

    To say things are tense in the air is an understatement. On the seas, China has neutralized the potential battle zones by allying with Israel's navy in effect containing the Iranian navy and preventing the US Navy from having to confront it. China did that as well because India threatened to send its navy in to ally with Israel and then Pakistan got upset and asked for an alliance with China on the seas and China put a cool it message out as it can't afford its oil being blown up or its merchant ships disrupted.


    I would speculate in months to come new rebel umbrella groups will come out of the ashes of old groups and no one knows who they will ally with. Add to that the strong likelihood of a new ground conflict in northern Lebanon, speficially where local Salafist groups and thousands of desperate Syrian refugees are.

    If that blows up Tartus and Homs considered personal fiefdoms of Asad as they are majority Alawite the minority group he is a member of
    and here we go again spill over and civil war in Lebanon with the strong possibility of Jordan and Israel dragged into the war.

    Riught now the rebels consist of Asyrians, Druzem Kurds, Sunnis in splinter cells, as well as Al Nusra the large Saudi financed wing of Al Quaeda in Syria. None of these groups trust one another. ISIS-DAESH considers itself at war with everyone on both sides.

    My bet is the next US President will want to adapt a more traditional alliance with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Gulf States and focus more against Russia and Iran by appealing to China to stay put a leash on Iran in return for more f avourable trade with China.

    Clinton for example is involved up to her arm pits in shady deals with the China lobby both as Senator, and during her bubby's day and as a private consultant. I see her sucking back up to China to neutralize Putin.

    If its Trump who the hell knows.
     
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    Begin didn't say that. Texe Marrs wrote that.

    Let me google that for you.

    Texe Marrs doesn't say that he's quoting Begin, or anyone else.

    Check your sources.

    Menachem Begin was 7 years old in 1920.

    Check your sources. Again.

    And reports published by Fars News are never facts. Pravda only quotes Farce News. This Iranian disinformation site is at the origin of the story.

    There's nothing Russian leaders hate - and fear - more than typical American stuff. There's nothing more American than burger and fries. The message is that American imperialism is leading the world to doom.

    The truth that the pro-Russia posters are avoiding like plague is that the western powers could have acted against Assad quickly and efficiently, were it not for the Russian and Chinese vetoes at the Security Council...

    That vetoes are what made the mess that is Syria today.

    Does anyone seriously believe that dozens of secret agents from different - and not that friendly toward each other - countries, would flock together in a camp in a war zone just to make it easier for the enemy to spot and kill them?

    And how, pray tell, would they be able to do any meaningful intelligence work from a cave deep in the mountains, some 20 km from Aleppo?

    The last thing in Pandora's box might have been hope, but the first to go out and widely spread was surely naivete...

    I'd expect a camp full of intelligence officers from several countries in a war zone to be equipped for these kind of emergencies. Besides, spies must have codes, they can't just call their bosses and cry over the phone about how evil Russians bombed them.

    Do you have any kind of evidence for Israeli spies in Syria openly asking for help over the radio?
     
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    The truth about the arab spring, is that it has CIA all over it. And Hillary too. There was, is, an intent to totally destabilize the middle east. Why? The same reason as always. There are profits, big profits to be made by a group of our elites, who own the fossil fuel companies, the banking cartel, and MNCs. Our CIA has always been an element of this group of elites. So, whenever south America would get a leader that wanted to help his own people, if he did not allow our elites to plunder and pull the wealth from his nation, the CIA would help in staging a coup. They are very good at this, experts, you might say. This has always been one of their primary roles. Read that book by one of its operatives, who wrote a book something in its title about an economic hit man. He goes into great detail about it. And for America, it is business as usual, involving the usual suspects.
     
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    In addition to oil. War is good business for the big banking interests/international financiers who make money off of both sides.
     
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    Not to mention local building companies.
     
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    Yeah but I think they will see the insignia FSB there.:)
    OT: My condolences for the passing of Shimon Peres, he was indeed a very great man.
     
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    Don't know what there was to lol about because it was a serious question? [​IMG]
     
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    Are you sure that comment was intended for me because it has no relativity whatsoever to any of my posts.
     

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