What should we be focused on during these last two weeks?

Frank Luntz made a very interesting comment on the October 21st edition of Hannity:

These appear to be excellent questions. How would you answer them? Try to be specific if you can...

 

Considering that Obama ordered wiped out of existence a huge log of suspected Islamic Terrorist and people known to have ties to them after he became president, no the nation is not safer today. Also there is the fact that he has generally -- and on purpose -- weakened the military and replaced most of the independent minded upper level military with spineless yes men. Hillary would simply do more of the same.

These last few years have amply established that Hillary has no integrity and that honesty is foreign territory to her.

Trump would TRY to hold Washington accountable, but it is doubtful that anyone will have much success with such an entrenched system. Still he would try while Hillary would simply wallow in the stuff.

 

Democrats - scoring inauguration ball tickets.
Republicans - saving what is left of your party and dignity post Trump.

 

or u cud just go with:"shud a fear mongering racist who hast the intellect, composure and attention span of a 6-year-old have the most powerful job in the world?"

 

The idea that the US military has been weakened in the last 8 years seems ridiculous to me:
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It is clear to me that Trump is some kind of buddy for dictators like Putin and Mussolini- I think Trump would waste more taxpayer money on butt-kissing the rich by lowering their taxes and destroying pollution controls and union laws. Since I do not live in a swing state, I am not voting for either Billary or Rump.

 

Um no; because in fact Obama is NOT running for a third term. The nation-hating Left is going to have to find another basket full of deplorables scum bucket for that . . . oh wait . . . they already have, and her name is Hillary Clinton.

 

Cleaning the Washington swamp that Hillary will continue.

 

I would like to add a question about Obamacare. The success of tax and spend economic policies could be important, too.

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Yay, for my team......freaking cheerleaders. Good to know you care so little about the actual direction of this country.

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Nice false rhetoric you got there.

 

Translation: People who don't agree with my politics hate America.

 

What should we be focused on during these last two weeks?

That's actually a pretty easy question to answer, something that most voters are concerned about, yet both candidates and the media seemed to have forgotten about: The economy.

 

Nope, people accept their role as cattle through various means. Your reason is team pride.

 

For (2), check out the thread that just started on Clinton involvement in Haiti.

 

1) No
2) Hell No
3) Trump

 

Focused?

 

We should be focused on "The Walking Dead." I can't wait to find out who Negan kills.

 

Translation: If you don't agree with what I am saying you are stupid.

 

1. Anyone who doesn't know that we are not safer was born yesterday.
2. Hillary does not have honesty or integrity - doesn't know the meaning of the words.
3. Hillary is not going to hold the people she surrounds herself with accountable to anyone but herself.

Here are the issues I think about most:
The Oath of Office:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Are we going to expect Hillary to take an oath she has already violated?

What about that Constitution? Are we going to allow it to be picked apart, nibbled away and replaced with third world dystopia?

Who will uphold that Constitution for us and for our grandchildren? Who is going to be on the Supreme court. Will it be non-partisan constitutionalists, or will it be people who feel empowered to redefine laws and rule from the bench.

 

There are lots of adjectives, distracted, ignorant, coerced, frauded, fooled, confused, and stupid.

 

arrogant, self-righteous, smug, fact free, emotional, selfish, sexist, racist and lying.

 

Well, the answer is simple, really.

Americans... REAL Americans, that is. Not the phony, bigoted ones Palin used to hysterically rant about -- have to worry about one really big thing: Keeping Orange Man out of the White House.

This is of crucial because:

Donald Trump, makes Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte look like a Nobel Prize-winning genius.

I’m sorry, but it’s true. And every honest person on this forum knows it’s true. The world is far too dangerous to have an unfocused, simple-minded boob, like Trump, anywhere near the Oval Office. He’s a dangerous man, especially around women.

 

This thread should not be taken as an endorsement of Donald Trump. I asked three specific questions related to Hillary Clinton, none of which you answered. It is she who I'm asking about (because in my opinion, it is far too dangerous to have a pandering, corrupt, dishonest, self-serving, overly private dictator anywhere near the Oval Office). So I'll try again:

(1) Is America safer today than it was 8 years ago?
(2) Does Hillary Clinton have the honesty and integrity to be President of the United States?
(3) Who is more likely to hold Washington accountable?

If your answers are "yes, yes, Hillary", we can begin the discussion...

 

Your statement is highly disingenuous. You say you’re not endorsing Trump, then you go on to viciously trash Hillary. By doing so, you are, in fact, endorsing Trump. So, your statement, followed by your questions, can only be answered in the same way. But there are no simple, yes or no answers. The only way to get to the gist of it: determine which of the two would make the better president - which is what you are really asking - is to compare BOTH Hillary and Trump.

The problem is, they are the two worst candidates I can remember, and I’ve been around longer than most on this board. That is the only logical way to approach our problem. I don’t like either of them. But, honestly, I do believe Hillary is by far the better choice.

They’re both lying scum. But Donald Trump will smile in your face while he’s picking your pocket with one hand, and grabbing your wife’s crotch with the other. Plus Trump seems almost bi-polar, he can’t focus for more than a couple of seconds on any subject, before running off in an entirely different direction, rambling all the way. He has no answers to anything, he simply talks in circles, saying nothing: “Only I can defeat ISIS” - “I know far more than all the generals” - “I’ll hire the best (fill in the blanks).”

Trump is an idiot. A complete imbecile. “I know how to run a business,” he says, “therefore I’ll run the country like a business.” My question is: How? By going bankrupt over and over and over and over again, as Trump did with his “businesses.” By his own business record, it looks as if Orange Man was in the business of going bankrupt. Would he run the country by leaving all of his creditors holding the bag while he runs off with their money? He did that in his “businesses.” By not paying his contractors, suppliers, and workers for the work they did, and supplies they provided? The Donald has done all these horrible things and many more.

These are the things that have to be examined if we are to ever get to an answer as to which of these two awful candidates we should choose as the next president. The real problem with the way you‘ve tried to set up your post, is that you want to trash Hillary while leaving Trump alone. The truth is that every single thing you’ve said about Hillary could also be said about Trump. Plus he has a million additional negatives. For instance, you would NEVER want Trump anywhere near your money, your pockets, your billfold, your wife, daughter, niece, any young female child, a nun, a prostitute, a porn star, or any other female. You also would NEVER want to do business with him, or pay for his seminars, and certainly not pay for his “college” courses. He is a swine, a thief, a swindler, a sexual preditor, a liar, a draft dodger. Plus he’s all the things you mentioned earlier, he’s: pandering, corrupt, dishonest, self-serving, hides all his records especially taxes, and he’s too dam stupid to have near any nuclear missile launch capability. Trump is all hat and no cattle; an idiot; a fast talker; a snake oil salesmen; a huckster; a charlatan; a joke.

That is the only way to look at these two. They have to be compared side by side. Not by trashing one, and leaving the other, safely hidden, out of the conversation. As I said, they’re both bad. But with Trump, I’d have to wash my hands in Clorox after shaking his hand (that, after counting my fingers, of course). So, that’s about all I have to say on the subject. I’m just glad the whole mess will be over with in a couple of weeks.

 

Nope, not disingenuous at all. I simply do not buy into the idea that I have to vote for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. So I can tell you why I won't be voting for Hillary Clinton without feeling any need for that to compel me to vote for Donald Trump. Sorry, but the questions posed are not intended to show that Donald Trump is the person people should be voting for, they're intended to show that Hillary Clinton is definitely NOT the person folks should be voting for. You may believe that voters have to vote for one of these two individuals, but they don't. If you're simply casting a vote against Donald Trump, I understand (and in that case, these questions don't really come into play), but for those who are actually casting a vote for Hillary Clinton, I'd be interested in knowing how they answer these three simple questions.

 

I think the answers to your questions would take far more than a simple yes or no.
1) YES -- Over-all America is safer, considering that there are people all over the globe that would like to hurt this country. Much of the dislike for America that we see, all around the world, is a result of many, many decades of sticking our noses into the politics of other countries. Supporting horrible leaders just because they’ll do what we want them to do, for instance.
2) NO -- Hillary, honesty and integrity. No. But certainly no worse than Orange Man. And, she certainly has a bigger set.
3) NO -- no one will ever hold Washington accountable for anything. The rich and corporations have bought and now own ALL of our congressmen. All of them.

Our choices are horrible: Hillary and Trump are equally rotten people. Third party candidates have not a chance in hell of being elected so a vote for any of them would be a wasted vote.
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I don’t know if this will be of interest to you, but, I already voted for Hillary the other day (mail in ballot). It was an extremely hard thing to do. I’ve been an Independent voter for a couple of decades because each of the two major parties have such huge flaws.

My decision to vote for Democrats was made for me -- years ago. It was decided on the day Mitch McConnell announced (just before Barrack Obama took office, the first time) that his number one goal was to make Obama a one-term president. I felt that statement bordered on treason. I can understand disliking the president of an opposing party, but to state that you will do everything possible to hurt him, and damage his presidency is much more serious, imo. I expect our politicians to try to work together -- NOT for themselves, but for the country.

Then the Republicans went on, over time to oppose every single thing the president tried to do. There was NO attempt to work together on anything, for years and years.

Finally, Antonin Scalia died, leaving a vacancy on the Supreme Court. The Republicans, again led by McConnell, refused to accept President Obama’s nominee and, refused even to meet with him and, of course, wouldn’t consider a vote. This really angered me. It’s the first time I can ever remember such a thing happening to ANY president.

Then, a couple of weeks ago, John McCain made a public statement, saying that he would NOT support any Supreme Court nominees named by Democrats in the future. He said he would work to make sure Republicans would refuse all such nominees. This cemented my decision to vote for Democrats.

So, I studied the candidates, and when my ballot arrived, I voted for a Democrat for nearly every single office (I voted for a one Republican out of the bunch). I will continue doing this until I see Republican Congressmen begin to do their jobs (as I see it): to work for the good of the country - not just their party. I still want our politicians to work together.

I guess, per your statement in your last post, that these questions do NOT apply to me. I’m not just voting against Trump, I’m mostly voting against what I see as a highly dysfunctional Republican party.

Sorry this post is so long, but the whole topic is difficult imo.

 

It doesn't matter the answers. The talking point for Trump should be scandal, scandal, scandal and if people think the election was bad, wait for the non-stop investigations bringing the government to a stand still for the next 4 years if Hillary wins.