Turkey’s New Maps Are Reclaiming the Ottoman Empire

Turkey has violated the territorial integrity of at least three separate countries: Syria, Iraq, and Greece.

And now they are openly discussing and examining the annexation of territory within those countries.

So where are the endless stories and reports decrying Turkish aggression? Apparently, multiple invasions and the de facto annexation of territory is only a problem when it concerns Russia.

Meanwhile, the fascist Turkish government continues to slaughter the liberal-democratic Kurds in Turkey, Syria, and Iraq.

Does this gross violation of human rights warrant attention from western governments or the western media? Hardly.

Just keep this in mind the next time you hear someone talk about "Russian aggression". Chances are it's not the aggression that bothers them.

 

The actual borders can be seen under the red/orange highlighting. It's not clear from the article the context in which this map was shown on Turkish TV.

 

Good thread. Here is an article that was published in the Daily Sabah, a mouthpiece of Edrogan, which is quite revealing of Turkish thinking. If you just ignore the obvious self-serving statements, you will get a good idea of what Turkey has in mind as far as Mosul is concerned and more.
http://www.dailysabah.com/columns/i.../turkey-has-to-be-prepared-for-a-divided-iraq
Turkey has to be prepared for a divided Iraq

The following is revealing as far as Turkish designs with respect to such a Kurdish state is concerned.

As for the Sunni regions:

 

The context seems to be Turkey's invasion of Syria and its routine incursions into Iraq and Greece.

 

The context of the Turkish TV show that showed the image [rather than the context of the article]? Interesting..

 

That map is probably one of those other - zibillion amount of - nationalistic expansionist maps you can see on the internet. Be it mega Greek empire, Ultimate Kurdistan, Superior Armenia, or Hyper Turkish Imperialism.

Interestingly though, an exact opposite debates could be seen in Turkish public from time to time, especially when CNN international or other some of other biggest US networks show a Turkish map with a Kurdistan state or Greater Armenia in Turkish soils, "accidentally".

 

I suppose Erdogan is quite busy thinking how to hold the power in Turkey at the moment.

 

The other nations are not acting on it though, Erdogan is. That's the difference. Erdogan has not only said that the Lausanne Treaty is null and void, but that Thrace, and sixteen Greek islands belong to them. He even hinted about the city of Thessaloniki.

On Orthodox Easter Turkey had plans on grabbing a Greek island, and it was thwarted when the Greek government took notice and had it reinforced. Right now there is a lot of demonizing going on in Turkey about Greece to prepare the people for a war, and it will probably start with some false flag attack.

 

His way of holding on to power is to give his followers the power they crave, and so he's very dangerous.

 

Erdogan is an expansionist, thuggish dictator, which is exactly what the west accuses Putin of being, yet where is the outrage over his wars of aggression and his violations of human rights?

 

The West loves to make black white and white black. But then again, people do like those who are on the same end of the moral spectrum as themselves ...thus Washington's hatred for Vladimir Putin and their love for autocratic and corrupt leaders willing to do their bidding.

Erdogan is a known megalomaniac, who feels he has a messianic purpose in life to re-establish the Turkish caliphate and Sunni Islam. If you listen to his speeches he is a phenomenal orator on the order of Hitler, and knows exactly how to appeal to the sentiments of the Turkish people...

 

Meanwhile, Vlad the Invader's army is reclaiming the Russian Empire.

Perhaps, Erdogan and Putin would like to take their nostalgia trips up a notch and fight over Pleven again?

 

Absolute Idiocy - ! -
You've been eating to much of that War Mongering Poop that has been coming
out of the brainWashington Propaganda Mills again, haven't you sTalon

If what you say, were in any way True, the Baltic States, Finland and ALL
.................................... of the Ukraine, would have been annexed by now
.................................... & there would be bugger all the US could do about it, but to end
............................................. the world & their Business opportunities with a full scale Nuke War

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Well, looky there, it's the Crayola Kid.

Howzit going'? Me and Durandal were just reminiscing about the fun we've had over at that other forum. Good times...

For the record, I didn't say Vlad the Invader had finished reclaiming the Russian Empire. It's still a revanchist work in progress.

However, now that the Crimean Peninsula is part of Russia again and he can park his boats in Sevastopol, one can only hope that his neo-imperialist adventures are largely behind us.

Speaking of the annexation of the Baltic States, whatever came of this?:

Has the Kremlin started handing out passports there yet?

Putler did that before he sent his goon squads into Georgia and Ukraine. You might call them Vlad the Invader's Calling Cards.

"You're next!"
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Yet western governments and media only seem to care about the one.

 

The Europeans have a legitimate reason to care about Russia and its neo-imperialist revanchism - half the continent languished under the Kremlin's yoke for 45 years.

As for the Obama Administration and the #BOWDOWN MSM, they're still butt-hurt from Putin shoving his arm up Obama's ass and turning him into his personal hand puppet.

On to Erdogan, Obama has never met an Islamist he didn't like. He delivered fighter jets to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and he provided the Khomeinists in Tehran a clear glide path to a nuclear weapons program and $150 billion to spend on their pals in Ansar Allah, Hezbollah, et al. Erdogan has absolutely nothing to worry about in Washington - he could kill every last Kurd in Syria and Iraq and Obama wouldn't lift a finger.

In 12 days we'll find out if things might change, but I'm not terribly optimistic...

 

Where? Oh that's right he overthrew the elected government in Ukraine, and chose their new president.



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Jeebers Talon - which Bad Guy were you over on that "OTHER " forum ?
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Wrong, Russia suffered 70 years under an ideology that was brought in by the West and from leaders sent in and paid for by bankers in the West. But even before that they suffered one expansionist attack after another from the West ...albeit under some pretext such as putting them under the Pope to unite the Churches, etc..

Russia was hated in the past for the same reason they are hated now. Not because they have ever done anything, but because Poland, Lithuania, Germany, etc. cannot steal their land and wealth ...and it freaks them out.

 

This all is like Russia, & China exerting dominance to territories in dispute prior to, & after WW2.

We who refuse to Learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

A theme well documented throughout human history.

 

In other words, it's not aggression that the west objects to, it's Russian aggression.

 

Turkey has nothing to worry about. They're a member of NATO and a key player in the west's hegemonic agenda, so their expansionism and illiberality will be overlooked and covered up by western governments and media.

 

I have zero negative argument really to that statement. Especially today, in the climate of restraining terrorism. We need those airbases in Turkey.

 

Oh, I wasn't one of your bêtes noires from the Cornfield, Eadora. I was just one of the Americans who used to torment the real bad guys over there who turned that forum into one of the most noxious hate sites on the Internet.

 

I don't know the history and I'm too lazy to check it out, but if the situation in the Baltics is like Ukraine... which I believe it is, it means that much of their border lands were Russian lands and were given illegally by the Soviet Union to the Baltic administrations. It didn't matter at the time since the USSR was an internationalist system where nation states didn't exist. But when these countries wanted their independence then these ethnic and nationalist irregularities should have been taken into account.

I know Crimea wanted a separate vote as to whether it wanted to remain with Ukraine... which it didn't, so that even though Russia was considerate enough towards Ukraine and the Baltic nations as to give them their independence, they in turn weren't willing to offer the Russians living on the lands the same courtesy.

If the Baltic nations were smart, they would have formed trade agreements with Russia and treated the Russians living there well. Instead they created an apartheid system to get the Russians to leave ...something that is against international law.

It all comes down to greed. This is why they're so paranoid and shaking in their boots. Russia's not to blame, their own guilt is causing the problems.