Comey should resign. He is not a FBI director, but just a Republican

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Well, "sayonlytruth" (?!), you got it WRONG.... Comey admitted on July 7, 2016, that although he had been a Republican, he had given up his political party affiliation: http://www.politico.com/blogs/james...hat-party-is-james-comey-registered-as-225223

    Oh, and who appointed Comey to be Director of the FBI? Go on... speak the "truth"! Why, it was BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! :eekeyes:

    [​IMG]. "Those idiots think you're a Republican!" :smile:
     
  2. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hilary Clinton is the biggest cry baby in the history of American politics. She is far, far too weak and psychologically unstable to hold public office. She should really be in a safe space. Prisons have the best safe spaces.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    He was the lefts hero when they thought he was in their back pocket and protecting Hillary from her mistakes.

    Now he is their #1 villain because he is making Hillary look bad.

    Party over country, the way of the democrat.
     
  4. Curious Yellow

    Curious Yellow Well-Known Member

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    Comey did exactly what he was supposed to do. He cannot be faulted for this. The pain Hillary is enduring is by her own decisions, not his. He chose the best option if the FBI is to hold onto its reputation. This is not complicated at all. The timing was horrible for Clinton, but she doesn't deserve any sympathy for this one.
     
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    Is he the Democrat's b**** or the Republican's b****?? I guess it depends on what he does. If he says Clinton is innocent, Democrats like him. If it looks like he's going to say Clinton is guilty, Republicans like him. Partisans on both sides are not being objective about this.
     
  6. Pollycy

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    Actually, Comey did NOT do what he was supposed to do! He was supposed to make a recommendation for or against an indictment of Hillary Clinton based purely and soley on evidence, and not (NOT) on what he subjectively mused to be "INTENT"! That whole "intent" ploy was the worst, most thoroughly corrupted obstruction-of-justice scheme I've seen attempted since the Watergate scandals that forced Nixon to resign.

    Wait and see! Remember: Comey refused to recommend indictment to the Justice Department (i.e., Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, who had the "tarmac visit" from Bill Clinton two days before Comey's announcement).

    THINK: If Comey said he didn't find "intent" after Investigation #1, why in hell would anybody think that he's going to find "intent" after Investigation #2?!

    Bottom line: Even after all her crimes against national security, and, after having been clearly shown to have turned the State Department into a whorehouse for über-wealthy donors to her Clinton "Foundation", she WILL be elected President of the United States. And James Comey will remain as Director of the FBI!

    [​IMG].'Intent? I don't see any intent!"
     
  7. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a load of (*)(*)(*)(*). Plenty have done lots of hard time behind bars without showing any intent whatsoever. It's national security. Intent is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing irrelevant. There are too many lives at stake. It's big boy rules at her level, not whatever schoolyard games you think she is involved in. She is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgrace.
     
  8. Crownline

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    The lowest denominator is, if Hillary didn't lie so damn much, this wouldn't be an issue.
     
  9. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    World class rationalizing here and we have now a new legal principal offered by Hillary apologists (and that would include James Comey) that says breaking U.S. law is not cause for prosecution or legal sanction anymore if the person did not INTEND for harm to come to the country (ignoring for the moment that, in and of itself, blatant disregard for the law is harmful in a nation where, supposedly, no one is above the law).

    Of course Comey knows better but the people using his excuses to rationalize probably never give a second thought to what they are regurgitating like politically
    indoctrinated Mynah birds thereby making Comey's duplicity dangerous and irresponsible.

    I'm sure Hillary Clinton did not intend for her emails to become hacked (who would) and classified information to be known to the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans and whoever else was in on this unprecedented security breach.
    But the fact is when you deliberately and consciously ignore U.S. State Department security protocols and safeguards (even after swearing and attesting otherwise) and transmit yourself, classified documents from your own non secured server to your daughter and top political advisor's non secured servers,
    your "intent" becomes irrelevant because your actions have negated your own intent and any half way bright and reasonable individual could easily foresee
    that you were setting up a chain event of circumstances that could easily, and did, spiral out of control with adverse consequences all because you decided
    that U.S. law did not apply to yourself...only to other lesser people.


    Perhaps we should apply this standard to other crimes and not just the ones that rich, powerful, well connected politicians commit, to see if this new principal makes sense or is rational: Perhaps arsonists should not be prosecuted because they did not intend that the fires they set out in the woods would
    get out of hand and burn down tens of thousands of acres of forest and dwellings too.

    Perhaps we should forgive drunk drivers because they did not intend to smash into oncoming traffic tragically killing innocent others when they
    took the wheel impaired by liquor.

    Perhaps we should not prosecute pedophiles because they did not intend to psychologically impair their victims for decades after their deeds are done.
    Sure, they broke the law. Blatantly disregarded it. But did they mean for their actions to get out of hand and end up in tragic consequences?
    Of course not! So who are we to prosecute them? That's the Clinton standard as preached by James Comey.

    The fact is intent is not required when people improperly and illegally store and handle government communications. Either you follow federal law or you don't.
    Comey knew that and now so do you.
     
  10. Gatewood

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    That's correct. By Comey citing a 'lack of intent' when it came to BLATANTLY and REPEATEDLY mishandling confidential, secret, top secret, and above top secret materials as a reason NOT to recommend that her case go to a grand jury when intent is not a legal deal breaker in such activities, Comey was breaking the law himself by knowingly aiding and abetting a law breaker. He should there and then have been arrested on the spot by FBI agents.
     
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    I really feel sorry for Comey....Imagine, he heads up the investigative wing of the Justice dept. His troops have conducted an extensive and detailed investigation of a prominent dem and his investigators are ready for the grand jury and indictment BUT his boss, the AG advises that the fix is in and Clinton's are above the law. What can he do? He holds a presser, lays out the legal case and then clearly advises there will be no indictment for political reasons. Put on the spot by an incredulous congress, he promises to revisit the investigation if new evidence appears and sure enough, massive amounts of new evidence appears so...he does the least he can to keep Congress in the loop, keep his mutinous investigators from resigning in mass and leaking everything to the media that is not dem, and the dems and their bought and paid for AG go nuts.

    It's a completely no win situation. I figure he is relying on the voters to decide they don't want a criminal in the office.

    The bad news is, maybe the public does want a criminal as long as nothing changes.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said the exact opposite, especially before Congress....he cites a lot of illegal acts but sadly, obeyed his political masters. I would think more of him if he just told the truth...Clinton's cannot be prosecuted.
     
  13. Gatewood

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    Yep, because either Comey was too cowardly for the position of Director of the FBI or because he really is secretly owned by the Left he let Hilary give the Laws of this Land the middle finger as she walked, and now because he will have possibly hundreds or thousands of FBI personnel walk if he doesn't finally do his damned job he's in trouble with the very people he previously sold his political soul to -- the nation's Left. Sweet!
     
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    You're caught in the weeds on this one. Comey has a long track record of independence. Setting that aside, he chose the better choice. Think it through. A trove of new information comes into his hands. He can do one of two things: 1. Be immediately transparent about the FACT that he has reams of new stuff to look at that may or may not be relevant. Or 2. Hold onto this information until after election day. Those are his choices in this narrow moment. IF it comes to light that these emails are nothing but fluff, he's erring on the side of transparency on behalf of the FBI. On the other hand, if he sits on the information and Hillary gets elected, then they find that the emails actually do lead to an indictment, the FBI ends up with egg on its face; the country gets thrown into an even more horrible situation.

    The calculation is simple.

    The optics of the timing are horrible, but this is a self-inflicted wound for Hillary. He made the right decision.
     
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    Were you saying that when he let her go? Even after the mountains of evidence?
     
  16. Pollycy

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    Your analysis is logical, but I can't rationalize any way to explain why Comey didn't come straight out and recommend indictment for Hillary Clinton in the first place -- based entirely on EVIDENCE! After an obstruction-of-justice stunt like that the FBI now has "egg on its face" -- permanently! And James Comey is the one who is soley responsible for bringing this disgrace on the FBI. If he had recommended, based on evidence, to indict, and then afterward if Loretta Lynch had refused to do so, then the whole rotten stinking scandal would be on the Justice Department, not on the FBI. But now Comey has stained the honor and reputation of the FBI, and nothing can change that now. The worst thing that Comey did was to think in terms of what the political ramifications of an indictment would be. In doing that, he forgot the mission of the FBI itself -- to examine evidence and those connected to that evidence. Then, to make a recommendation for legal proceedings, or not to. Comey screwed this whole thing up and he can't fix it now.

    Going forward, the only thing that can even begin to salvage the situation is for Comey to resign and that should be followed immediately by the appointment of a Special Prosecutor to conduct a totally independent investigation, free of any contamination or manipulation by Comey, Lynch, Obama, the State Department, the FBI, the Clinton Foundation, or, Bill Clinton.... No more stonewalling, lies, obstruction, or "tarmac visits"! Stop the bleeding, remove the infection, apply the correct remedy where it is needed, and let real justice be done! :flagus:
     
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    Crooked Hillary is not so connected. The FBI underlings know how corrupt Hillary is when they did the investigation. Hillary for prison.
     
  18. Troianii

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    What, for doing his job? When he recommended no criminal proceedings against Clinton by creating a new standard, saying she didn't have malice but was just careless - whereas others before and since have been punished for lesser violations of opsec: was he "just a Republican" then?
     
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    Hillary intended to put an illegal server in her basement. Hillary intended to withhold evidence from Congress deleting 33.000 e-mails. Hillary intended to bleach bit 33,000 e-mails that were government property. Hillary intended to obstruct justice by all her actions . Hillary is guilty of a security breach that is criminal and with intent.
     
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    The OP wasnt whining about Comey until a couple of weeks ago.
     
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    Partisan hack leaders such as Phoney Comey at the FBI will hopefully be reassigned to Idaho if Killary wins, and will probably be big heroes for unfair decisions if Rump wins.

    “Comey has unleashed a lot of the bad behavior by people down the line by signaling that it’s okay to treat Hillary Clinton differently,” says Matthew Miller, a Democrat who formerly served as a spokesperson for the Justice Department. “There certainly seem to be FBI agents who have taken a really hard partisan line and are just kind of blinded by their anger and hatred toward Hillary Clinton.”

    The recent series of FBI leaks are particularly worrisome because they raise the prospect of a state security agency equipped with the full resources and investigative might of the federal government working to interfere in the elections. The FBI is so powerful — it can, with court approval, issue subpoenas, tap phones, intercept emails and conduct round-the-clock surveillance — that even a small coterie of its agents can find ways of influencing the political process. That’s the kind of thing we normally see in autocracies like Egypt or Turkey, not here in the United States.”

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    http://www.vox.com/world/2016/11/5/13525698/fbi-clinton-trump-leaks-server-email-scandal
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    As a democrat in Idaho, we'd be happy to have him.

    If his choices and behavior puts politicians of any stripe on notice that their assumption of pseudo-diplomatic immunity may be in jeopardy, more power to him. The bottom line is that these wounds are self-inflicted. If we are seeing the rise of a check against career politicians and endemic mild corruption, GOOD.
     
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    Poor Hillary Clinton, it's totally a right-wing conspiracy that she took emails off of the secure servers they were supposed to be on! It's totally a conspiracy that she spread those same emails to people who did NOT have the classification to view those emails, and it's totally a conspiracy that the obvious result: They ended up on Weiner's computer(it could've been anyone), was also a total conspiracy against her.

    No, it's not a vast right-wing conspiracy Hillary Clinton. It's your own actions and now you have to live with the consequences of them. Like anyone else.
     
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    Show me plenty where there was no intent to commit the harm subject by the statute, or contemplation of harm, no intent to break the law and no actual harm done. there was no hack. There was no victim. There was no security breach. You got nothing to take into court but a copy of a state department policy and protocol. The jury and judge are going to wonder why you are wasting everyone's time with this and the Defense counsel is going to offer them a lot of theories as to why you might, that have nothing to do with safeguarding America's secrets from the evil double spy Hillary Clinton.
     
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    ABSURD! Comey came out without ANY EVIDENCE and disrupted the Hillary campaign . He came back again with the fairly stupid (but willingly disruptive) story that there were other EMs to be reviewed, again without furnishing any evidence. The pretense is that this EMs damaged someone. He does know or tell who was damaged and why but it does not matter: he wanted to put doubts and he succeeded. Just like his protegee Trump who accused Hillary to be mortally sick (she had a cold!) and ONLY speaks about Hillary faults, never putting forward one word on his program (supposing he has one). It's a couple of people that should NEVER be put in charge of anything as biased and very dangerous to a democracy.
     

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