How Young People Voted

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I'm 28. My generation was distinctly different from the one coming up. Our worse swear word was "gay", but kids in some parts of the country today don't even use it as a slur. America is changing in an organic way. It's not "political correctness" anymore. It's manners, and it's really started to rub off onto my generation as well.

I know that republicans are going to say, "kids always vote leftist" or "kids are really easy to manipulate", but honestly, I have not been too impressed by those in the work place with 30 years in.

 

Give them 10 or 20 years more life experience and have them start families and they'll become Republicans.

That's what happened to the Boomers. Today's old fogeys were the 60's revolutionary firebrands who ended up electing Ronald Regan. And if history repeats, the next generation will be conservative. Opposing one's parent's politics is an important aspect of youthful rebellion.

 

Well, as a 28 year old... I started work just five years ago. I saw one of the worst stock market crashes in history. I actually thrived through the period, despite my father losing his job. The Obama years were very good to me, and we have actually had a seven year rally. Right now everyone expects a recession, and it's not because of Trump... although Trump could cause his own recession. I'm really strongly considering selling my house, which has appreciated in value. I will probably live through the Trump era very well. I'm a well educated straight white male.

If Trump is right, then it's all gravy from here, but the thing is, Trump is nothing like Reagan. He wants to cut taxes, sure, but he also wants to increase spending. The man doesn't seem to know what that will do. I'm going to begin diversifying in commodities and foreign markets. I expect a sudden drop in real estate values when Trump renegotiates NAFTA because I'm in Detroit which is heavily linked to the automotive industry, and the automotive industry relies on Mexico for cheap labor. Then I expect a rebound as inflation kicks in from the Obama and Trump spending.

Things might get exasperated as Trump starts trade wars with various countries like China... maybe it won't happen though. But hey, maybe he'll break the unions. They're already halved in power since the recession, but maybe Trump will do some simple math and realize that unless the tariffs wont work unless they are a certain price. Probably not though. The man probably doesn't do his own math.

 

At the root of your generation is godlessness. When the root goes bad, the whole tree goes bad as well.

 

China is relatively godless, and their GDP is off the charts. Their people are very very nice too.

 

My first vote was for McGovern then in 76 I manned phones and knocked on doors for Jimmuh Cawtuh. Reagan 2nd term was the first time I ever voted GOP, last time was 2000. That is until yesterday. What I am saying is that intelligent people evolve in reaction to the situation. Dem Party of today is not the Dem party of Johnson and GOP is not the GOP of Nixon. I guess a lot of people who have no sense of individualism like to put themselves in little boxes labeling themselves as this or that in a attempt to have an identity of some sort.

 

GDP is not contingent upon godliness, and neither is niceness; especially if it is just a facade to cover what is on the inside.

 

Intelligent people certainly do change their minds based off of the situation, but we're not really discussing that. We're discussing the general opinions of today's youth. Within that group there are many people who are both intelligent and stupid, but more than any other generation, they seem to value diversity. I think that momentum has grown and grown throughout the years, and I hope it continues, despite this seeming setback.

 

When I was growing up and when I was a young adult before political correctness, the meaning of being gay was that you were happy and in a joyful mood, a dude was a pantywaist and being in awe was respecting something that you feared.

Today the younger generation think the word "work" is a four letter word and is politically incorrect.

 

But civil behavior and politeness is absolutely expected and essentially required socially.

 

what I was saying is that their general opinions of today will not necessarily be the same in 4 or 8 years. Whenever I see someone discussing youth opinions and behavior I am reminded of this quote

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”


― Socrates

 

Socially there's been a steady march to the left. Today's republicans would be considered liberal by 1950s standards. Republicans these days actually support things like interracial marriage which was not at all okay back then. Now things like gay marriage and drug legalization are becoming more mainstream.

Fiscally you may be correct. People start making money and having families and don't want their money taken away by the government.

 

And because of that relying on Mexico for cheap labor, our once proud Detroit is a shell of its former self. By investing here at home, Detroit will rebound. Haven't people realized our economic potential has been cut in half because of the lack of investments here at the home front?

Why do you think Mexican produce can outdo the United States? Or that of China's? Or India's? The "Global Economy" amounted to the US capitulating, and leaving millions of people without jobs and income.

Furthermore, the automobile industry is the furthest thing apart from REAL ESTATE(retail) value. So yeah, you might want to rethink that "well-educated" part, you conflated two very separate industries.

Government spending would be nice, provided that spending is going to infrastructure and other crucial areas, not necessarily all to defense or otherwise pork and wasteful spending. But even better, is if we can restore the net worth of most Americans, reducing their privately held debt so that they can spend more again.

When we restore a true economy, even Liberals will come to love a Trump presidency. Because what we all need, is better finances.

 

I think that the 60's 'revolution' was way overplayed. MOST of the Boomers were NOT 'hippies' nor were they even close to being revolutionaries. The ones that were the most radical, carried on and infiltrated the 'establishment' (like Bill and Hillary). This election finally put an end to the 60's so-called 'revolution.'

 

Please stop derailing the thread.

 

But they all voted Democratic. They had demonstrations in the hundreds of thousands. Left wing terrorism was common. Race riots and targeting of police were worse. I judge that the young people of that era were much more radical than young people are today, which is all I claim.

But I hope you re right that this election put a stake through the heart of that abominable era.

 

What you call a move to the left is just defining deviancy downward.

 

Spending under Reagan went way up thanks to a dem congress who he had to make deals with

 

More than anything else, this election result was the WWII GREAT GENERATION and the POST WAR BABY BOOMERS shouting out "We aren't dead yet!!!"

 

There was also government corruption, powerful unions, and a lack of cheap labor due to the tightening restrictions on immigration. If you want Detroit to thrive, you need to fix the problems... not add a tax. And by that I mean adding a tariff will not fix anything.

Produce... as in fruit and vegetables? I'm not a farmer, but I'll bet it's because they live in a warmer climate.

I live in metro Detroit. I know you think that everything is going to just go great for the automotive companies now... but having to retool/build plants is expensive... and labor here is expensive... two out of three automotive companies just went through bankruptcy... it's not realistic. Not to mention that the rust belt has been moving south. Even if companies decide to relocate, it might not be to here.

Not sure what you mean by better finances. And "reducing debt so they can spend more" sounds like an oxymoron.

 

No...most were NOT radical at all. That was the creation of the main stream media at the time with Walter Cronkite being the most 'trusted' news anchor...only he was a libbie through and through. Also, take into account, that information at that time, was vastly more limited than today. One had to rely on CBS, NBC and ABC for their news. We now see today just how biased they were and are.

 

Most are not radical today. I think the 60's and 70's were more radical than today's generation.

I am not sure what Walter Cronkite has to do with it.

 

You're kidding, right? The current batch of university aged kids are the least diversity tolerant generation we've seen since the 1950s. If you aren't 100% in lockstep with the dogma, you're instantly demonised. They are frequently worse than far right religious fundamentalists.

 

Not sure if we all end up on the right. I'm middle aged leftist with a family, and I know plenty of other middle aged leftists with kids, mortgages, etc. But I do think that a new generation of conservatives is inevitable. They're currently in the 15 - 22 ish age bracket, and they're educated, middle class, worldly, liberal (personally), atheists who are very politically aware. They loathe progressivism for its genuine flaws, not because they're homophobes. Many are in fact, gay. Any leftist who either a) doesn't even know this group exists, or b) is in denial about it because it messes with their simplistic model for conservatives, deserves everything they get. Including Trump.

 

I was a teenager in the 1970s. It pains me to see what conservative jackasses Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent have become.

It seems like the US economy peaked in the late 1960s. I was delivering newspapers to people living on just Social Security checks, still living in their big house after their kids moved away and able to afford a decent used car. Inflation has made that impossible for most, unless they saved/invested a lot of money on their own.

I definitely see less prejudice towards gays and mixed race couples now- the new military rules for gays and women, legal gay marriage, and legal marijuana were impossible dreams back in the 1970s.

I see a lot of people getting their "facts" from just one side now, such as Fox News or Vox or Facebook friends- it probably led to Trump as president. Maybe in a few more years a Rand Paul, Sanders, Stein, or Johnson will have a chance to win, as people become more immersed in the internet at a younger age and are less force-fed a lot of bullcrap.