What is the deal with Steve Bannon

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  1. Mike12

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    he seemed to have helped in taming Trump and propelling him to victory. Why do liberals hate him so much? why the uproar over Trump appointing him as an advisor and strategist. I'm hearing some folks on CNN and they are depicting a very dark picture of Bannon, as if he were a very evil and disgusting man. Is there some truth to this or is this more of the liberal strategy to destroy the character of republicans who they view are formidable rivals?
     
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    As per the LA Timnes:

    Bannon, who took leave from his job running the conservative Breitbart News site to run Trump's campaign, is a divisive figure. Breitbart, which had long promoted Trump's candidacy, has also given a platform to the so-called alt-right, a loose collective of openly racist and anti-Semitic activists. Bannon's new West Wing assignment immediately drew criticism from both Democrats and Republicans.
     
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    glenn beck did the same...


    thinking about this, i think this is probably not a bad pick. Preibus is the establishment and Trump will need him to reach out and work with people like Paul Ryan. Bannon, on the other hand, is anti-establishment and from what i hear opposes Ryan. What Trump is signaling here is two things - 1. He will work with establishment to make good deals for America (enter Preibus) but 2. He will not be the establishment's puppet and he will pursue policies that may not be popular with establishment (enter Bannon)

    From what i hear about Bannon, i'm not sure i am a big fan but one concern i have is that Trump will hit Washington and let people like Ryan dictate his policies, the appointment of Bannon sends a different message.
     
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    Maybe because he is a political hack who propagates lies to smear everyone who is not a hard core right winger? It seems we'll get back into the fact-free zone in the WH, where decisions are based on political hackery rather than results, just like in the good old GWB days.

    Maybe the GOP should have elected Jeb anyway, at least he would have experience to continue with the Bush 3rd term.
     
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    Well no wonder no one trusts the news anymore because this is just damned lies from the LA Times. Saying the Alt Right is a loose collective of openly racist and anti-semitic activists is like saying American progressives are a loose collective of Maoists and Anarchists. They take most fringe element and use that define EVERYONE. Many Alt Righters are just conservatives with a nationalist undertone who are sick and tired of political correctness and SJWs, it doesn't mean they hate jews or want to oppress other races.
     
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    They are still suffering from Post Trumpmatic Stress Disorder. Hillary promised: "We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

    Instead, a lot of Coal Miners put HER out of business.

    Seems fair...
     
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    He is part of the establishment. It's just that he is the wacky Alt like a Neo Nazi-lite part of the establishment. He is like a Nazi without the anti-semitism.
     
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    I do not believe that the Alt Right us anti-semantic ... at least not the majority of them.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Isn't Bannon a lush?
     
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    The alt-right movement has nationalist undertones? No, they have nationalist overtones. The alt-right are statist tyranny endorsing hypocrites of the tallest order.

    Facts mean nothing to them. As an anecdote, over UFC fights this weekend (Conor bless) a friend of ours who voted Trump was discussing the election. She doesn't care about facts. She complained about Obama creating ISIS.

    Her source?

    [/http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/]

    Yet, anyone who knows anything about the ME knows ISIS started as a smaller group in 1998. Not 2008. I pointed her to the large quantity of books I have on the subject, in particular Legacy of Ashes, and Ghost Wars, and a few others. When I pointed out the roots of isis goes back to 1998, and that the war in Iraq propelled them into prominence among the Jihadist community, she just scoffed and continued to blame Obama.

    Facts don't matter. The America people are apparently not interested in facts. Bannon doesn't report facts, and neither does bitefart news and the sordid consortium he has assembled.

    The Alt-Right is dangerous. I'm a self described moderate - socialist who has no interest in tolerating extremism of any type. Bitefart and the other shills and idiot demagogues of the alt-right movement are extremist, they are dangerous, and their rhetoric needs to be treated with a copious dose of salt. Nothing they say can be trusted.
     
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    Right.. Brietbart NEVER reports facts, is always pushing some conspiracy theory and looks like a lush with the red and blue discoloration around his nose.
     
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    Bitefart is awful. The comment section is full of absolute racism, anti-Semitism, and every other sort of sordid nihilism.

    It's hilarious though. I've never seen a seething group of people so averse to facts that they simply outright ignore them. The Fuhrer does so, so I guess they are ok with it. IDK.
     
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    Well said.. So I get Bitefart.. The real question is what is wrong with Americans?
     
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    They're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots, that's what's wrong with us. For example, they hate multiculturalism, but this nation is, and has always been, a melting pot of cultures.

    They honestly believe that illegal immigrants are causing us huge problems with employment. Since, you know, whites are chomping at the bit to toil in the fields that the poor brown man tills, and they look on in utter jealousy (all the while, the irony of slavery and their current outlook is completely lost on them.)

    They honestly believe this is a Christian nation, but can't point me to a founding father that was Christian - they were deist. They buy into sordid and sundry lies about Obama, the underpinnings of which can only be described as racist - the ISIS example is perfect for this.

    I understand that a lot of Americans are just sick of the status quo - we are rebellious by nature - and some are fed up of the jobs being shipped overseas - these are legitimate issues. But the outright ignorance of facts and denial of facts and dismissal of facts is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dangerous and ought to be criticized at EVERY opportunity.
     
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    You right on all counts.. I don't know what they want.. Authoritarian theocracy or Christian fascism? What? They certainly don't want the US Constitution.

    I am absolutely appalled that Trump chose Bannon.
     
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    Of course they want Theocracy. Look at Pence. The dude is an utter religious psychopath who legislates his faith into law. Iran does (*)(*)(*)(*) like this; here in the states we have a separation of church and state, not a unity of it.

    I can't vote Democrat anymore because of the primary rigging scandal, and I can't vote Republican anymore because of the religious psychopathy of these people. They're insane, slobbering and glossy eyed at the notion they will "make America Christian again."

    It. Never. Was.
     
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    Don't know Bannon. I guess time will tell. Can't be anymore hard right, than Valerie Jarrett was hard left.

    I love the flip out on the boards. All you libs need to remember is that Ryan and McConnell are on the same side as Hillary was, with the Wall Street movers and shakers and the Big Bankers. Trump wont get much done with out a fight, and the media will be all over him. I fully expect an attempt to impeach and if that don't work there is always another way.....

    But seriously, he has already come back to the middle on just about everything, give the guy at least 100 days before you (*)(*)(*)(*) yourselves.........
     
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    The Fuehrer doesn't concern me. The republicans and their demagoguery does. This is the deny-fact-party now. The Alt-right is an absurd batch of charlatan demagogues. They need to be crushed and drawn to the middle.

    What this country needs is moderation, not demagoguery.

    Bannon is a total sleaze. He is a scumbag who totally butchered the notion of journalistic integrity.

    Liberals are losing their minds because they listen to harsh language and can't understand it. Whatever. I hope Trump dumps Nafta and fixes his horrible tax policy. He has a good chance at being a good president if he can draw his idiot echo chamber bitefart conglomerate into line and stop their demagoguery.
     
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    OP, as you can see from the foaming mania in this thread, the deal with Bannon is that he represents a threat to the LW hegemony in media and ideas, making him another "literally Hitler." I don't read Breitbart often, but have looked into the distortions about Bannon to know they are just that.

    Right now, the traditional MSM is utterly terrified that they are about to lose their access and ever greater chunks of revenue to net sources like Breitbart, the appointment of Bannon sends them into apoplexy. So expect more Bannon derangement syndrome the entire administration. He's one of the "New Kochs" since the old Kochs didn't support Trump, they suddenly became allies. Remember, these are people who navigate entirely emotionally and have no need nor respect for consistency, cohesiveness or integrity.
     
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    Bannon isn't a new Koch. LOLOL
     
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    Lmao. The right wing apologism for the alt-right movement is like listened to "Too Drunk to (*)(*)(*)(*)" on repeat. The hysterical clown car chock full of Washington insiders, Extremist Ideologues and Religious Psychopaths has been put on display for all to see.

    I am personally a FAN of alternative news. I don't care for CNN, or MSNBC and the fever screams of lunatics like Rachel Madkow or Joe Scarborough. I hope Trump does a good job.

    But I am under no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing illusions about the Alt-right and their denial of facts. THIS is what makes Bitefart and the psychopath Stephen Bannon not only illegitimate, but downright dangerous.

    Bitefart is one step from Infowars, David Icke, sensational Alien conspiracy theories, ridiculous rants about Christian hegemony, etc.

    I am not surprised though that alt-right folks support these psychopathic lunatics.
     
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    And yet that smaller group doesn't gain prominence if we don't leave a vacuum in Iraq and if we didn't arm the "Libyan/Syrian" rebels, and let them just waltz over. Make no mistake, the Arab Spring is Obama's worst policy and it "indirectly"(even though Obama signed an EO practically letting him arm extremists that Washington previously had on the TERROR list.) led to a more powerful ISIS.
     

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