I'm tired of hearing these dishonest euphemisms

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Edit: Meant to write "euphemisms". It would be nice if titles could be edited.

    "undocumented immigrant" and "undocumented worker". They are illegal immigrants, people in this country contrary to its laws. Are certain people unable to talk about these people with that honest label applied? Do they feel a twinge of conscience when they do, and so avoid using it?
     
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    It would be nice if any part of any posts could be edited within you know 1 or 2 minutes of posting it without it being tagged last edited by blah blah blah.


    As far as euphemisms go I agree with you. Why wouldn't you call somebody who entered the country illegally an illegal alien? It makes perfect sense and it's shorter than undocumented worker.
     
  3. Durandal

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    Aside from my original suggestion that they don't want to acknowledge that wrong-doing, there is also the propagandistic aspect to consider. Such a term is Orwellian in the way it attempts to influence how people perceive these illegal aliens. Their cult, their club, uses the euphemism in order to establish a pro-illegal alien mindset.
     
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    This is how the left perpetuates such an incredible lie. They refer to illegal immigrants as just "immigrants", which is incredibly dishonest. It undermines immigrants who came here legally. This big lie that the left perpetuates is one of the things that fueled the flames of Trump's success and propelled him all the way to victory. It turns out that Americans are not really stupid enough to go for the big lefty lie, but we will still see the left try to perpetuate this now obsolete tactic. Labeling illegals something that they are not had as much success in the past as painting their opponents as racists, so they are not going to abandon it that easily.
     
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    euthemisms;

    Statements of compassion that put things out of their misery.


    Seriously-
    Occasionally they are cognitive distortions that misrepresent and prevent understanding, this, often, when presented as maxims.
     
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    Illegal immigrants is just another distinction without a difference. Nomenclature is really unimportant. They are what they are no matter what you call them.
     
  7. HereWeGoAgain

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    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-is-undocumented-immigrant.html
     
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    Here, the article below explains how the left uses PC to control people .... emotional programming.

    Political Correctness is Totalitarian Mind Control

    http://www.truenews.org/Liberalism/political_correctness_and_mind_control.html

    People mistakenly regard political correctness as just a nutty liberal fetish for not hurting people’s feelings. Words and phrases are continually decreed to be “insensitive” to “minorities” therefore replaced with euphemisms so to avoid real or perceived offense. People’s ignoble or criminal qualities became disguised and excused with euphemisms: “Illegal aliens” became “illegal immigrants” and then “undocumented immigrants” and presto-chango, something bad was magically transformed into something good. The emotional programming inherent in words and phrases is so compelling that it affects our behavior in many areas of life.

    If the ongoing language war consisted solely of one man’s use of emotionally compelling catch-phrases – like Obama’s re-election favorites (“Everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules”) and his ceaseless appeals to raw envy (attacks on “millionaires and billionaires,”) – it wouldn’t be difficult for truth to prevail. But the political and cultural left has hijacked virtually our entire language in the last couple of generations. It has redefined many key words, phrases and concepts, changing not only the words we use, but the way we think. The whole idea of political correctness is an assault on the freedom of the human mind.
     
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    I hate it, too, but since I can't change it, I will use it to my advantage. If I get pulled over for speeding I will tell the police officer "I wasn't speeding, I was driving at an undocumented speed limit." I can see how one can get away with anything if you use the word "undocumented" in a creative way.
     
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    Last year, over 235,000 undocumented immigrants were deported.

    How is this different than deporting illegal aliens?

    And what about illegal space aliens? It could get confusing!
     
  11. erayp

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    It's simply the use of words to manipulate your emotions so you will accept people who did not respect our laws and came here illegally. And if you are not manipulated into accepting it, then the PC culture uses words, for example, call you a racist in an attempt to silence you from speaking out.

    People’s illegal acts became disguised and excused with euphemisms: “Illegal aliens” became “illegal immigrants” and then “undocumented immigrants” and presto-chango, something bad was magically transformed into something good.

    The operating principle behind political correctness is raw intimidation: In a politically correct culture, if you dare use certain words – and by logical extension, even think a certain way – you are ignorant, insensitive, intolerant, bigoted or hateful.
     
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    You can't label someone a victim if they're here illegally.
     
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    Great, so let's call them illegal aliens.
     
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    Yea, immigrants have nothing to fear. Illegal immigrants do. There is a difference. The list can go on and on of the constant misrepresentation of the facts by the left news outlets. But that is exactly why people are leaving that party. Thier dishonesty.
     
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    There is a significant difference lol. The fact you can't see it says more about your cognitive abilities than anything.
     
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    I just watched a Law & Order episode and they called Islamic terrorism an "unidentified act of violence"....

    You can bet they're trying to weasel that euphemism into the mainstream vocabulary. They've already done it in Sweden and Germany, now of course progressives need to follow suit here in the US to show how PC and tolerant they are of Islamic terrorism.
     
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    homeless instead of wino, autistic instead of retarded
     
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    Call them anything you want as far as I am concerned.

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    There is absolutely zero difference. That you think there is shows how easily you are misled.
     
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    One is here legally, the other is here illegally. Thus you have immigrant and illegal immigrant. That is a significant difference. You are brainwashed lolol. There is an objective difference.
     
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    I wondered how this terminology came about. I visit the US frequently. I like you folks. Anyhow, when I visit the US, I drive my car to border crossing, show the border guard my driver's licence. He or she asks me a few questions and waves me on. Once I'm in the US, I can't stay longer than six months or work while I'm there. If I crossed without going to a port of entry and/or worked, I'd be violating US laws. If I overstayed, I'd be violating US laws. It's not a matter of not having paperwork. It would be a deliberate act.

    That being said, the market is speaking here. In the US, there is a demand for low-wage service workers and a supply of those workers. We have provisions in NAFTA for quick issuance of work visas for skilled workers. Maybe a class of visa should be created for low- or no-skilled workers and monitor the employers for abuses. It should be easier to enforce. There are fewer employers than workers.
     
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    Libs think that just because they aren't the brightest bulbs in the lot, we aren't either. "Undocumented" and "illegal" are synonymous, but they just can't put it together. Perhaps they need to look up the definition for "illegal." But they keep saying they are the "educated" ones. LOL
     
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    Your ignorance of facts ooze from your finger tips. About half of them enter the US legally therefore they were legal immigrants who have fallen out of status. Either way, as I said, you can call the expletives for all I care. Your limp-wristed attempt at personal insults, however, don't make you correct, just obnoxious.
     
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    The correct term is illegal alien.
     
  25. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    I don't like it either. The term in sweden is "papers-less", as in "without papers". Being without papers is illegal, so just say illegal immigrants you bloody fools. And in any discussions about immigration, they'll intentionally muddy the waters by blurring the distinction between illegal and legal immigration. Most obvious case of media bias and attempt to skew the debate. similarly, these thieving gangs of criminals and fraudsters, they just call them european migrants, as if it included germans and frenchmen.. we all know it's eastern europeans.
     

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