The Revolutionary Lesson to Be Learned from the Victory of Mr. Trump

We will never be without the voice of the left any more than we can be without the voice of the people.

 

Criticism ≠ demonization, and aspects of the mentality of many Trump voters indeed deserve a good bit of criticism.

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Hear! Hear!

 

I'm not unaware of the part played by the undemocratic presidential electoral system in Mr. Trump's victory, however a great many proletarian voters did in fact reprehensibly and tragically vote for him and the significance of this must be critically examined, one can't merely dismiss it with the observation that Mrs. Clinton would have won if the outcome of presidential elections was determined by the popular vote.

 

The bias and dumbness expressed in this bit of reductionism requires no commentary.

 

I might also point out that there’s a whole school of Marxist thought that features the idea that our society finding itself in a catastrophic state of socio-economico-politico health might be the catalyst for a sea change in the direction of communism. If this theory is correct perhaps a Trump presidency may be just the sort of calamitous state of affairs needed to induce our society to turn left and to begin the work of abolishing the capitalist status quo that limits us to candidates of the pigocracy like Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton, perhaps this will eventually prove to be its silver lining. Either this will turn out to be the case, either we’ll become more conscious of the plutocratic nature of our society’s power structure and set to eradicating it in favor of a form of polity geared for social and economic justice and solidarity, i.e. authentic communism, or we’ll stay the course of capitalism all the way to the demise of our civilization. Let us hope that we eventually choose the revolutionary path, for the conservative path indeed foredooms our story to a very unhappy ending.

 

Btw, FYI dear Trumpites, the most salient fact about Mr. Trump, relative to your dreamy hope that he'll be your champion, is that he's a member of the capitalist elite. Little do you appreciate how deeply and fatally this damns your misplaced hopes of political empowerment.

 

So was Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama became a millionaire the instant he became a U.S. senator and worshipful leftists were just fine with that.

 

Well that is a hell of a lot better then the political elites. Or liberal elite.

 

Now that's more the usual far left hysteria I expect. We lost because the voters have been insufficiently traumatized by political correctness. No you lost because people, working people in particular, across all socioeconomic spectra have figured out that the left as it currently sees it's self is full of it's self and not much else.

 

I've never been a fan of either Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton, they, like all high-level officeholders, and the whole government apparatus, for that matter, function as instruments of the influence and power of the economic ruling class. However, directly electing a capitalist elite is certainly not a brilliant alternative.

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A profoundly twisted partisan interpretation.

 

Shrug.

Keep it up then. See what happens.

Far be it from me to criticize those who are above any criticism because of their superior moral rectitude, even if such rectitude does not prevent those who enjoy it from strategic stupidity.

 

A horrendously naive and stupid opinion, and one that tellingly overlooks the simple and well-known fact that political elites function to adversely impact the welfare of working-class citizens primarily because they're in bed with, are indeed the minions of capitalist elites.

 

It's difficult to distinguish a person with an abundance of money from a capitalist, huh?

 

That sir is the reality, ignore it at your peril. Trump got the Republican nomination almost entirely because he ignored your damn PC bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Most of us are sick to death of leftist PC guilt trips being laid on us. Once you figure out that being called a racist by you and others like you carries about as much weight these day as a helium filled kid's balloon you and yours might make some inroads in the political process again. You and yours have spent so much time seeing a racist under ever bed and a misogynist in every closet and have thereby managed to so debase the terms to the extent that when a real one shows up and you start crying everyone just automatically assumes you're full of crap and ignores you.

And hell yes I am a partisan. so is everyone here including you. If you weren't a partisan one set of political ideas or the other you wouldn't be here.

 

You're so confident of this that I'm sure you can list some "PC guilt trips" other than just racism.

 

Excellent post!!! The accusations and “projections” from the left are now falling on deaf ears and is working against them. More have woken up to the fact that the left is projecting their own hate.

The legacy will be shrouded in this detachment from reality, and the history books will speak of riots from the left, not the right.

 

Yeah, I don't agree with any of that. I think the lessons are: Don't demonize the majority of Americans. Don't mess with the right to keep and bear arms and don't mess up our Health Care.

Reuters poll: Voters want action on healthcare first:

This case means repeal and replace. Tinkering around the edges won’t work:
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Obamacare includes three mandates which form the heart of the program:
1) an individual mandate for comprehensive policies (including specific coverage mandates),
2) a mandate on insurers to sell policies to those with pre-existing conditions (guaranteed issue), and
3) a community rating mandate which prevents insurers from putting the risk burden on those with pre-existing conditions.

This results in a severe distortion of the risk pool, those that would use very little healthcare pay like those that use it a lot. Obamacare forces young and healthy consumers to buy insurance policies better suited for the old and sickly. And the young and healthy, did the math and paid the penalties rather than the premium.

These mechanisms can’t be “amended” out of Obamacare; they are Obamacare. The mandate for guaranteed issue and the way in which the federal government forces insurers to handle that risk cannot exist without the other mandates. Eliminate the individual mandate, and requirement of comprehensive policies, and you eliminate the wealth transfer necessary to subsidize older and less healthy consumers.
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http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Colum...p-s-Idea-Amending-Obamacare-Simply-Can-t-Work

Republicans in Congress plan to pass a repeal measure in the first days of the next session in early January. After more than six years of embarrassing failures, skyrocketing costs, and disappearing choices, voters deserve quick action to dismantle ObamaCare. Trump for his part has said we must ensure all Americans can access Healthcare. He has been very clear on that point.

 

Put simply, You want to brainwash the masses to believe in your marxist ideology.

The reason your ideology is losing is it does not align with human nature. When people wake up to what marxism means to them personally it will lose every time.

 

Oh sure. Just off the top of my head:

Sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, transphobia, heteronormativity, fat shaming, ableism, lookism. cultural imperialism, cultural appropriation,

 

A racist comment deserves to be called racist.
A sexist comment deserves to be called sexist.
The same with the rest with some exceptions. Those exceptions in your list are not "PC". They're rude insults and personal attacks.
Claiming "PC" and whining and stamping feet is one way to deal with deserved labels/characterizations, but it would be much better to show how the comment or label is not deserved. Actually refute them with sound reasoning. But it's so hard.

 

No. Whining and stamping feet is much better.

Trying to refute them with "sound reasoning" is futile. The sound reasoning will just be used as further evidence of the racism of the target in question.

It also caves into the "frame" of the Left that racism and sexism are somehow morally wrong (i.e. politically incorrect) instead of actually being a reasonable response to objective reality.

Nope, I'm sticking with the whining and stamping of feet.

 

Lol that's cute. Now, I have studied various power structures and institutions of society so I do not fear your interpretations. I called you a pseudo-intellectual because you believe everything you regurgitate.

 

Easily, misogyny, Islamophobia, homophobia, xenophobia. You've called us Nazis, Fascists, stupid, and ignorant. No one spends as much time avoiding policy discussions and calling names as leftists do.

 

Example? Immigration perhaps? Economics?

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You would agree that labelling a point of view simply as racist etc etc and refusing to debate further would be wrong correct?

 

Translation: Many rightists are in fact racial bigots who don't have the moral courage to own the label "racist" (at least one must give Ku Kluxers and neo-Nazis credit for honestly declaring themselves to be racists, although even some of them nowadays play the game of making the claim that "We don't hate nonwhites, we merely love our own race"), they prefer to use the handy euphemism "politically incorrect" (what a godsend the term has been for them, enabling them to play the victim, to claim that they're merely guilty of political incorrectness and are victims of the left's alleged intolerance) to dissemblingly describe themselves, and to bemoaningly claim that the left goes in for laying undeserved "guilt trips" on them merely for holding a different point of view. But in fact they most certainly are racially biased and bigoted, and do indeed rate a bit of harsh judgment, and enlightened anti-racists on the left are guilty of nothing more than doling out to them the disapprobation that they so richly deserve.