Why do you think Hillary would have been a good president?

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary and Trump both have their faults and mistakes. The Democrats on this website however seem to think only Trump has committed wrongdoing and will not even say a single word about the wrongdoing of Hillary. They act like it never happened. Since all of you Democrats think Hillary would have made a great president I have to ask why? What makes Hillary so great? I just don't see it.
     
  2. contrails

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    Because she would have continued the economic policies which brought us out of the last recession without setting us on course for the next recession.
    Because she would have continued to reduce the deficit and balance the budget without gutting the programs that many Americans rely on.
    Because she would have worked to fix the programs that protect the most vulnerable in our society without turning them into profit centers for the most privileged.
    Because she would have worked with our allies to fight the extremists who would attack us without creating more extremists from the vast majority of moderates who don't want to kill us.
    Because she would have worked to take care of the veterans who have given up much to defend this country without unnecessarily creating more veterans.
    Because she would have worked with other nations to address the problem of global warming that threatens the future well being of all of us.
    Because she would have worked to reform our justice and immigration systems so they focus on those who are a danger to our society while removing bias against those who are not.
    Because she would have worked to make the education that our children need to advance our society available to all.
     
  3. jackdog

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    the only thing hillary would have worked for is making herself and her Manhattan liberal millionaires more money, in other words obama jr
     
  4. StillBlue

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    Because,if Congress permitted, she would have improved things enough to.be reelected. As opposed to tear the things Down until anarchy looks good. I believe in anarchy as an ultimate goal but we are far from ready.
     
  5. Deno

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    liberals forcing banks to give mortgages to the unqualified caused the recession.

    obama spent more than all the other presidents combined, hillary would have carried on....

    hillary was into helping herself, clear for all to see.

    She would did the same as obama, which wasn't enough, isis would have loved her..

    Surely you jest about her taking care of veterans, she didn't do squat for our vets.

    Global Warming......that one makes me laugh...

    Justice and immigration, her idea of justice is to praise the criminals and demonize the police,

    her thinking on immigration is to let in as many future dem voters regardless of the threat they pose.

    Education, helping our children, what a joke. She doesn't give a s#$t about the children's education.

    She is into protecting the teachers unions, damn the kids.
     
  6. StillBlue

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    I'll admit that they allowed it but not forced. A sign that the Clintons were actually right of center, that's where the push came from.
    False. Not even close.
    Perhaps, a judgment call. Certainly not in comparison to Trump who brags about it. If that's you criteria then you should have run from Trump.
    Right, all economic indicators positive, as opposed to his predecessor's all negative. Even conservative groups say Trump's stated plans would raise the deficit and lose jobs,
    Isis leaders literally cheered at his election. And not only in NJ.
    So you think the guy that bad mouthed veterans, think McCain, is their savior?
    Which is sad.
    And when pray tell did she do that? Mind reader are you?
    Seriously, get a life. Breitbart lies. Trump said she'd let in 650 million. That's more than the entire populations of Mexico, Central America and South America combined, even if you throw in every man woman and child in Syria,
    The great Kreskin at work.
     
  7. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's simple. Hillary is corrupt, but smart. Trump is and outsider (so presumably not corrupt, yet), but incredibly stupid. I'd rather elect a smart crook than an honest (I use that term extremely loosely with Mr. Trump) idiot.
     
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    A self-made billionaire who fought and beat Fox News and Legislative Branch RINOs and the RNC and ABC, CBS, NBC/MSNBC, the New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Huffington Post, the DNC, and Hillary Clinton and Obama to win the presidency is . . . stupid? Cool!
     
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    Trump has a much better 3 dimensional chess game that Hillary. He and Putin are on the same page there.
    Stupid is not a word I would use on Trump.

    Hillary probably would have been "OK" as long as Bill was still alive or didn't become mentally impaired.
    She would have carried the same water Obama did. Which is the polluted water that is poisoning our
    country and the world.

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    Avid supporters, partisans if you will, always see their candidate or party as perfect and the other candidate or party as evil. It usually boils down to whether there is a D or an R next to a candidates name or party. Fortunately those numbers have been shrinking over time as those who do not affiliate or identify with either major party have been growing. But with our two party system, the two major parties have a monopoly which they will never cede regardless of the number of folks who depart their parties. They write the election laws and do so as a mutual protection act. They totally agree never to allow any other political party to become viable.

    I didn't see much difference in the two. Whether it is Hillary as president using the presidential office to enrich her further or Trump using it to enhance his worldwide business. Such were the choices given us this year. The bottom line is the avid supporters of Hillary all believe she would be the greatest president ever as do the avid supporters of Trump, he will make America great again and be the best president ever. Then there were those of us in middle who thought this election was between two bums that sucked.
     
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    Hillary would have continued on the Obama track where every decision affected my life in a negative way.

    I could not have survived Obama III.
     
  12. contrails

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    Since the sub-prime mortgage loans made between 2005 and 2007 that caused the crash were not originated by lenders subject to CRA, attempts to blame CRA for the recession fail. When housing prices went south, it wasn't the family of four working three jobs to make ends meet that walked away from their underwater mortgage. It was the traders and corporate executives who gave up their investment properties and vacation homes.
     
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    That was a well thought out and honest opinion.
     
  14. StillBlue

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    There is much to agree with here except that I found that most Hillary supporters preferred her, warts and all, but they did see the warts. The Bernie movement showed us that she was actually more of a Republican right of center than a liberal.
    Trump supporters apparently couldn't see his warts and believed his outrageous lies.
     
  15. AmericanNationalist

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    Those of us who are honest, law abiding Americans just gotta stick it out, continue going by what we believe and we're the ones who will make America great again.
     
  16. perotista

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    Exactly, no president can do that regardless of who he is by himself. What a president can do is inspire the American people to become great and to try to improve themselves. Reagan did this as did FDR. A president via congress can pass laws and legislation to help the people do that themselves, remove the barriers, regulations and mandates.

    I don't know if Trump is one of those who can inspire or even if most Americans want to be inspired nowadays. The American people must want to become great again or to improve themselves, with themselves being the key word. Then a president can do his part as trying to remove the barriers and to help them along.

    But what FDR and to a bit lesser extent Reagan had going for them, most Americans were self reliant, had self responsibility, show individual initiative, and lusted for self improvement. Today way too many people rely on government for exactly that. They expect government to improve their lives, government to take care of them, government to have the initiative, not themselves. Individual Americans one by one can make America great again and individuals one by one can improve their own life, their family lives and the life of this nation. No one president can do that for them.
     
  17. Deno

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    http://www.ecominoes.com/2012/05/frank-and-dodd-started-mortgage-crisis.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...esidents-george-washington-through-george-hw#.

    hillary was is making big bucks off selling influence through the clinton foundation.
    Trump made his money outside government, no comparison here.....

    hillary and obama enabled isis by leaving Iraq, indisputable......

    hillary and obama let our vets down, just look at the shape the VA is in.

    Man made global warming is a scam, lapped up by those that are easily taken
    in by any other scam...I mean think about....Carbon credits..it's all about scamming money.

    There is no doubt the left doesn't support law and order, it's detrimental to their base.
    obama had the terrorist group blm into the White House. hillary had the mothers of the recent
    thugs killed by police up on stage with her. They are both vile vulgar organisms.

    hillary is on record saying she doesn't believe in borders.

    It's common sense, hillary is against Charter Schools, she supports the teachers unions.
    hillary doesn't give a $hit about the kids.

    It's all irrelevant now, hillary got her azz kicked and there is a new sheriff in town.
     
  18. Deno

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    So you are saying you got your Azz kicked by an idiot.

    Where's that leave you on the smart chart?

    At least you have enough brain matter to realize the wicked witch was corrupt.

    Trump put a bucket of water and a house on her azzzz..........
     
  19. Deno

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    I agree with a lot of what you say, but where is the evidence

    of Trump enhancing his worldwide business?
     
  20. erayp

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    Democrats, liberal media, supporters refusing to acknowledge Hillary's wrongdoings is one of the reasons I didn't vote for Hillary. This is how abusive governments gain power and once in office they get more abusive. If she did wrong while in office who would call her out and defend the Americans that are hurt.
     

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