All This Silliness About Abolishing the Electoral College

By William Sullivan
November 25, 2016

“How could this have happened?” the media pundit bemoans [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/podcasts/election-analysis-run-up.html?_r=1], as he looks over the foolproof election data that he disseminated prior to the election. “How do I tell my daughter that America elected a racist, sexist bully?” [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/donald-trump-president-jessica-valenti-daughter] the self-loathing, white-privileged mother cries, as she glances at her previous article [https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-carolina-bathroom-law-republicans-hypocrisy] about how a state law prohibiting confused men from entering what may be a little girls’ bathroom is somehow tantamount to misogyny. “Love trumps hate!” reads a banner [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...and-protest-trump-in-rallies-across-the-u-s/] among the rioters in the street, as they visit violence and destruction upon innocent people and businesses in their community.

Perhaps sillier than all of that, however, is the incessant mantra amongst all of these people about how Hillary may have actually won the election because she garnered more of the popular vote than Trump. By now, you’ve heard the disgruntled leftists parroting the sentiment that the Electoral College is an archaic relic that is either racist [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-a-goodman/electoral-college-hidden-problem_b_2046957.html] (what else?), or has obviously outlived any usefulness it may have once had. Therefore, in the interest of progress, it must be abolished.

Outgoing California Senator Barbara Boxer has recently introduced a doomed-to-fail [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...roduces-bill-to-scrap-electoral-college.html] bill meant to do just that.

This argument is, of course, painfully dim and tiresome. The Electoral College is one of many safeguards against what de Tocqueville would later describe [http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/] as the “tyranny of the majority” that our Founders feared, or more specifically, the threat of a concentrated majority in a state that happened to be more populous than another. After all, it’s doubtful that Rhode Island would have chosen to ratify the Constitution and join these United States if they believed that their state’s unique desires at the federal level would be perpetually overruled by the much more populous New York, for instance.

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Simply put, Trump fought and won an electoral college victory. If the rules were different, he would have fought and won under those rules. This whining is just poor sportsmanship and sour grapes. But then, that's the Democrats for you.
Our Constitution is a Federalists Constitution of Enumerated Powers. Each of the then 13 and now 50 States have Representation in a central government that is to be limited to Article.I.Section.8, Article.II.Section.2 and Article.III.Section.2 where the Framers clearly Enumerated what Powers would be granted to the Federal government. The States were always intended to be the centers of Power and a national Democracy is the anathema to our Founding.
A petulant sore loser might take their football home and end the game, if they didn't get their way. A Progressive Democrat would also set fire to the stands, assault the audience, and pee on the field then blame the Republicans for the destruction. While they are having their tantrum they will call the winners racists, homophobes, Fascists, Nazi's, etc. But then again they always fall back on those well worn epithets.

 

trump does not have the consent of the governed

 

Such an entertaining post.

1. Trump has indeed displayed sexist, racist, bully tendencies.

2. Trump has also said he is not in favor of the electoral college, so evidently the president-elect and his opposition both agree.

 

But Hillary Clinton would? Two words: PUH LEEZ

1. You can keep extolling the sexist / racist charge, but at some point people will stop paying attention to you. As for bully tendencies, if you can get the bully to fight for you, that may not be a bad thing.

2. If enough people think there's something wrong with the electoral college, they can work to change the system. Until that happens, that's the system under which we operate, the system works exactly as it was designed to work, and Mr. Trump waged a very effective campaign under the rules of that system.

 

i agree, we should abolish all college.

 

By law, yes he does. Or is this just another law the left chooses to ignore?

 

I don't keep extolling it. Megyn Kelly did for quite a long time, tho. I learned everything about Donald Trump from Fox News.

Submit myself to a bully to feel empowered? Not my style. Maybe your style, not mine.

Trump actually hasn't been elected yet. It will be Dec 19th. Electors are not required to vote the way the popular vote was cast. I wonder if there will be any elector defectors?

 

He's got my consent! ...so please don't talk for me. Thanks.

 

yes he does...please inform yourself. Its embarrasing that people refuse to grow up.

 

we have to live with it, Trump did not win the most votes, but he will be our next President... just don't let republicans tell you it was a mandate from the people, cause it obviously was not

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were a nation divided politically, neither party will ever have 100% support... look at Obama's 8 years.. I hope liberals in Congress act better then republicans have

as long as like the Amish they are never heard from again.... they mind their own business and do not ask for handouts

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Every lefty on this forum has acknowledged that there is no evidence of Trump being a racist. This is some ancient debunked stuff that you are posting here, unless you have a link to some evidence of this racism. I bet you can't even come up with which race he is racist towards, let alone an example of it.

 

Since the election, however, Trump has disclosed to the NYT that he now "loves" the electoral college. whoever said Trump was an opportunist?

 

I seriously doubt there would be any defectors. What reason would they have to defect if both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have already accepted that Trump is the president for the next 4 years? Wishful thinkers are clinging on to some hope that things could change but i'm sorry to bring you back to reality but they won't. Trump is the president. Now if he does a poor job he won't make it past 4 years but let's give him a chance like we did for Obama.

Trump is far from perfect but then again so was Hillary which is why 10 million Democrats in her own party chose not to vote. She lost because of herself. Had Bernie Sanders ran he probably would have had some of those votes. How does Trump win the election? Make someone even scarier then Trump as your parties front runner and the Democrats did that with Hillary. Trump should have lost but Hillary was so bad nobody wanted her as president. Myself included. Had anybody other than Hillary ran for the Democrats I would not have even voted this election. Now it's time for you sour grapes to try to deal with it for 4 years.

 

(1) No need to "submit" yourself to anything. My comment was meant to indicate that there's a fine line between a "willful" person and a "bully", and willful people can sometimes lead more effectively than others.

(2) The voting of the electors has been discussed in another thread. And as I said there:

As to how electors are required to vote, that is not a free for all, but is specified on a state-by-state basis. You want to create a Constitutional crisis? Disregarding election results is how to do it...

 

Being sued for discrimination in 1973 would be one piece of evidence that Trump is a racist.

Maybe I could reconsider my thoughts about Trump.... Perhaps he is an opportunist who does what he wants to whomever he wants, and when he gets caught he does his darnedest to bullshat his way out of it.

But that would mean he is a sociopath.

So... racist or sociopath? I don't know for sure, so I accepted the more straight forward position and went with the evidence of FHA and DOJ proved in a court of law. Trump is a racist.

 

I think you might be right about no defectors since everyone in the Democratic Party has conceded.

She most certainly did lose because of herself.

I'm not sour grapes. I don't vote for candidates, I vote against them. I fell on the side of neither are worth voting for.

 

Over 40 years ago in the country was different. At least Trump didn't use the N-word like Hillary did.

Was trump a member of a whites only country club like Hillary or did he open his to minorities?

 

We aren't done with Trump potentially creating Constitutional crisis yet. He has conflicts of interests that he is willfully refusing to address, and basically telling everyone they can kiss is bum if they don't like it.

 

A another made up fake story. You're probably not aware that he is exempt as president. The constitutional crisis is in the heads of liberals.

 

So he is a sociopath... lol

I don't really care about Hillary, she isn't president.

I chose a write-in for president. I do not get the current state of the Republican party at all.

 

A sociopath? Many are going off the deep end on this one.

 

He is absolutely right. Good thing we don't live in one.

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The president isn't "exempt" from conflicts of interest...and if he takes money from a foreign power, he will create a constitutional crisis.

This is why I don't like the son of a batch. He doesn't do what almost all good and decent Presidents have done before him. He does what he wants and tells everyone to kiss his arse.

Why every Republican is just falling in line as his submissive servants, I am not understanding at all. "Yes, Mr Trump. What else would you like, sir."

I want everyone to say "NO Trump. YOU are a SERVANT to the American people. Put your assets in a blind trust like all decent and respectable Presidents before you."

 

Actually it WAS a mandate from the geographic U.S. The county precinct maps are all red.

Liberals have already acted far worse.