Why Trump Won

I'm sure there are.
I differentiate between American born Muslims and immigrant Muslims.
Those here will be profiled, scrutinized, and if they misbehave...who knows what will happen to them.

 

Lol. We are over there controlling oil flow, not to wipe out militant Muslims. Controlling oil distribution and costs are vitally important to our position in the world. We will do the same in Russia if their distribution even begins to look like it might affect our economy, influence, or power.

 

Everyone here has a smartphone...haha.
Seriously, kids, the poor...a few elderly people don't.
When your poor are fat, it's time to re-evaluate what poor in your/my culture is.
As I said before, you and I are among the wealthiest in the world. I'm sure we have absolutely no idea what those living in third world countries experience.
9/11 was so significant to us for several reasons. We NEVER thought we would be attacked on our soil. The terrorists subdued hundreds of passangers by threatening the life of one stranger. That changed much about our innocence. We are the most charitable people on earth. We stop to help strangers, we risk life to save strangers. On 9/11 we were made very aware that one of our greatest virtues was also one of our most dangerous vulnerabilities.
I appreciate the dialogue here, genuinely.
Can I ask you some questions?

 

The US has been in the Middle East forever. We may reduce troops there, but we will never leave.
It isn't about us wanting all the oil. It is about controling it's distribution to our benefit. I'm sure we compensate the leaders there who go along quite nicely. A fundamental, easily distracted citizenry there certainly behooves us. They can prepare for their holy war instead of interfering with US purposes for being there.
It's strategy. We aren't the world super power just because of what we have at home. We make sure there is never a possibility of any contenders.

 

What are the major political and economical issues there?
How do people from Englad feel about the Irish?

 

The Republicans retained the House and Senate. They didn't do badly. In FL, Rubio had a higher percentage of the FL vote for Senator than did Trump for the Presidency, for example. Many Republican candidates did better than Trump in their races.

 

Trump is no Republican. Haha. Ron Paul is no Republican. If you don't run as one of the two parties, you don't have a chance.
Listening to Hannity and Limbaugh try desperately to push their listeners in any not Trump direction was entertaining. But then when Trump became a real possibility, they had to exercise incredible restraint because the GOP hates Trump. They would seriously rather Hillary have won. Trump winning is a major threat to both parties and they are all scared. They have owned DC forever.
I don't think voters care nearly as much about any issue as they do about change in leadership.

 

So, you can imagine the same shock it gave to the French in November of last year when Islamists murdered at the jazz-club Bataclan last November that killed 130 and wounded 413. The assassins then gouged the eyes out of some of the dead victims.

They planned the attack specifically because an American band was playing - the Eagles of Death Metal Band, which is one reason why they chose that place and that evening. (Only one of the ISIS attackers survived, and he was the mastermind.)


Muslims in France are your blacks in the US minority population-wise. Does that mean that the French should hate Muslims? Some do, after all, there are always nutters in any group.

But, by in large, the Muslims of France have assimilated themselves into the French lifestyle about as much as your American blacks, though they have been here in any number only since the French war in Algeria, after which the Muslim soldiers who fought with the French were forced to leave in 1962.

Today, one Muslim lady is the Secretary of Education in the present government, another French lady married to a Muslim is Minister of Health. There are 2300 mosques in France and likely ten times that number in churches (Catholic and Protestant), old or new or in ruins.

I see very little visceral hatred of the French for "their Muslims", neither by word of mouth nor over the media. With only a few exceptions. Because the French understand that not all Muslims are like the exceptionally hateful ISIS-fanatics.

Some years ago, al Qaeda operatives attacked the Paris underground and killed a good number of people. It's not that one gets used to mayhem and murder. One never can.

But, life goes on. You try to cope.

My point? Hatred has neither any particular ethnicity nor religion - like love, it is also universal.

Unfortunately ...

Thank you.

As for the questions, you can always ask ...

 

1- At the moment the big issue is the fact that the Brit people have voted to get Britain out of the wretched EU, so morale is pretty good here..
We've got a Conservative government which is fairy okay but is a helluva lot better than the other party, the lefty Labour Party (it's the equivalent of your Democrat party).
I vote for UKIP myself, it's getting stronger all the time and puts the other parties in the shade.

2- The United Kingdom has been a mixed bag of English, Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish for hundreds of years and we all get on alright, even the southern Irish come here in their thousands and we get on alright with them too.
In fact I had a southern Irish divorcee ladyfriend called Kathleen (it's true, it's true!) when I lived in Leicester (England) a while back, and she used to invite me round for meals with her and her teenage son, and we all got on great until I blew it.
What happened was she'd undercooked the bacon one evening and it was like chewing rubber, so when they weren't looking I fished it out of my mouth and slung it behind the settee for her cat but it wouldn't touch it!
I meant to pick it up later but completely forgot and she must have found it next day and our friendship went downhill fast after that and ended with her screaming down the phone at me "You're not a very nice man and i don't ever want to see you ever again!" and slammed the phone down on me..

 

Well, in a closed party state, like Florida, you have to be registered with a party in order to vote in the Primaries. When I go to the polls for a primary, they give me a ballot based on my registered party affiliation. That is different from Georgia, where they simply ask you which party's primary that you want to vote in. A co-worker of mine was registered NPA (No party affiliation). He was not allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Most states (39) have closed primaries.

 

Trump is worse than a politician he won because he successfully rallied all the bigots and villains to his side it was Wikileak and Russia that propelled him to power and this is the concerning part in the USA there is still enough large percentage of bigots than in Europe or in Canada.

The USA has finally been taken over by the villain the likes of Dr. No. Dr. Who. Dr. Doom, the Joker, Lord Voldemort, Goldfinger, Dr. Evil, Al Capone, Benedict Arnold, Lex Luther, Kingpin. Trump is the manifestation of those dreaded villains and now more than ever the USA need Superman, Batman, X Man and the Avengers.

 

You're right. Bill tried to talk some sense into the Black Lives Matters movement, and he was attacked for it.

 

I have almost come to grips with Donald Trump as President until today. I understand how it happened. He can't take all the credit because the Democrats have to accept a lot of the blame. The 'Rust Belt' gave Donald Trump the win and those votes rejected not only Hillary Clinton but the entire Democratic system. These are the people in the states straddling the upper Northeastern United States, the Great Lakes, and the Midwest States. The term 'rust belt' was coined referring to the economic decline, population loss, and urban decay due to the shrinking of its once powerful industrial sector. These people had been ignored by Washington for decades and their frustration and lack of help for them by Democratic leadership motivated them to vote for a change. They heard what Donald Trump promised and even if it wasn't going to help them it sure wasn't going to hurt them. They never heard from Hillary Clinton, she ignored those people because they were blue states and it was assumed they would vote Democrat.

The people who voted for Donald Trump for precisely those reasons will no doubt be convinced they've done the right thing when he begins to give back something of what he promised. That's the short term outlook, but the long-term outlook is something we have to sit back and look at very closely. Donald Trump knows very well that if he gives the people in his base some of the things they clambered for that they will overlook what's really going on. There's other companies located in Indiana and other States that will look at this deal and will say 'hey, I want that too, I want what they got'. Carrier has been offered $7 million dollars, tax breaks and other incentives to remain in Indiana for 10 years. In addition to these enormous incentives, they are most likely not subject to a lot of regulations and obligations as stated by the EPA and other safety codes. Who cares about clean air, water and the environment when 1000 jobs can be saved? Nobody.

Then this today.
Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif called President-elect USA Donald Trump and felicitated him on his victory. President Trump said "Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif you have a very good reputation. You are a terrific guy. You are doing amazing work which is visible in every way. I am looking forward to see you soon. As I am talking to you Prime Minister, I feel I am talking to a person I have known for long. Your country is amazing with tremendous opportunities. Pakistanis are one of the most intelligent people. I am ready and willing to play any role that you want me to play to address and find solutions to the outstanding problems. It will be an honor and I will personally do it. Feel free to call me any time even before 20th January that is before I assume my office."

On being invited to visit Pakistan by the Prime Minister, Mr. Trump said that he "would love to come to a fantastic country, fantastic place of fantastic people. Please convey to the Pakistani people that they are amazing and all Pakistanis I have known are exceptional people, said Mr. Donald Trump."

This is from a man who said he wanted to ban almost all Muslims from entering the US.
Pakistan’s population is 96.4% Muslim, according to the CIA’s World Factbook.
Relations between the US and Pakistan have been tense in the past and Pakistan has harbored Al Qaeda terrorists for years. Pakistan and India have had tense relationships and both countries have nuclear weapons.

Okay so Indiana got to keep 1000 jobs for ten years, and we got a president that will lead us right to the brink of a world war.Reuters reported that although Pakistan continues to receive aid as well as military funding and training from the United States, the US Congress has recently held back some help due to frustrations about Pakistan’s unwillingness to act against elements of the Afghan Taliban.

 

Blacks are not a hated American enemy and threat, Mexicans aren't either. Sure there are some racial tensions and such but no minority group in the US is coming together to assault our country. They aren't blowing anything up or inciting some vendetta on the country.
Racial tensions between Americans is nothing like National hate directed at a perceived threat.
We didn't feel guilty about hating Russians, certainly don't feel bad for hating Muslims.
I am not saying this in any snarky way though it may sound that way. Americans don't care at all about the opinions other countries have of us. It never crosses our minds. We would much rather protect our peace, power, and prosperity than be well liked.
I cannot understand why France didn't send them all away after that incident. I don't understand how French people would allow them in government positions. I just can't understand. If something like that happened here, I strongly feel citizens would retaliate before the government had a chance.
Our hate is directed at Middle Eastern Muslims. We love Israel because they don't take crap from Palestinians. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, America vaporized cities. Today we have no problem with Russians or Japanese because neither is considered a threat or enemy. Very, very different from internal race relations.
I think another significant Muslim attack in America would result in a round up.
What is the racial makeup there? How do the French feel about the English? Do you primarily drive or use public transit? Do most people have cell phones?

 

Haha...you should have chewed it, wiped your mouth, and spit it in the napkin!
In movies and books I have seen Irish depicted as kind of less than by the English. Just wondered about it. Also about Catholics and Protestants. There are very few Catholics in the south. I live in what is known as the Bible Belt. It's the most religious region of the country but church attendance all over has been shrinking for years. We aren't nearly as religious as we used to be. You can even buy alcohol on Sunday in Georgia. That happened just a few years ago!
I heard most European countries don't put ice in their drinks. Is that true? Are there strip clubs there? What's the average speed limit?

 

Yes, when I go to vote in the primaries they just ask if you want a Republican or Democrat ballot. How do you register with a party? Do you get a party card? Do you have to renew annually?
I wasn't aware of that...haha. I really asked just to gage your knowledge of our voting system and you taught me something I didn't know. I appreciate that!
What do you like most about Florida? Are you retired?

 

Yeah, in some Hollywood movie, maybe. Just maybe.

Come off it, I'll bet you've not met a Muslim in all your life, whilst I have had at least a decade of sales experience in Muslim countries around the Mediterranean rim.

They are not all stupid Islamic fanatics. In fact, they invented algebra!

So, you may not like them but enough of the disparagement hyped by your over-active imagination.

You have much more of a chance being shot by some other American than murdered by an ISIS fanatic. The probability is not "zero" - but it is an order of magnitude less than the real assassin who would be a just another American neighbor of yours.

Moreover, in arms-crazy America, your chance of being killed by a gunman are 3.25 times mine in France. See here International Homicide Rates

 

What do you speculate Trump's motives are regarding Pakistan?

 

Like a guy sick of doctors asking his plumber to do an appendectomy.

American voters (on both sides) have consistently voted for candidates with decreasing experience and grasp of the problems our country needs to solve. Candidates who offer increasingly rosy "something for nothing deals"—even when the impossibility of their delivering on those promises is painstaking demonstrated.

That's how we got Bush, Obama and now Trump. Trump is not a change in Washington. Trump is a continuation of the problem created by unrealistic expectations of voters.



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There are more Mexicans in American jails for murder than there are Muslims.

Believe me, you are looking in the WRONG DIRECTION for the murder and mayhem that plagues America today. In fact, most of the shootings are done by born Americans than foreigners. From the WikiPedia report Racially-motivated hate crime:

You are barking up the wrong tree ...

 

If you took blacks out of that equation, I bet you'd be surprised.
Why do our guns bother you so much?
9/11 required no guns.
Having guns is a fundamental American right. I can't imagine we will surrender that right any time soon.
But again, why are you so concerned about our guns?