It's almost Christmas and Trump still hasn't released his taxes

And EVERYONE voted for him and we all LOVE him besides, that, after all is what an Electoral College "victory" where the majority LOSES really means.

Fer crissake how do you guys even breathe with your noses so far up there?

 

Were you concerned when Hillary was raking in the dough from all those foreigners powers?
One we know happened. One your theorizing will. Facts you'll ignore but theoreticals are important?
Look, if you want to go fishing buy a license and go fishing. Don't tell everyone it's just a stick with some string but no hook or bait.
Unfortunately for you there is no legal license for your fishing expedition. That leaves you standing there with your stick in your hand looking dumb.

 

The constitution can be amended. If you don't like the system for selecting the president, then all you need to do is get 3/4ths of the states to agree with you.

 

If you look through my post before the vote you will see that several times I posted that the two worst candidates have been put up. A broom stick would be more suitable as president than either of those two. Are you satisfied that Trump is not hiding anything in his return, a return that has sections called "foreign investments" and a detailed creditors & debtors section?

 

Twist it however you like, but following tax laws is not "dodging" anything.

Elections have consequences, we won!

 

I cannot see the logic in being concerned with his taxes. It's under audit. If something is illegal we all know damn well it will become public. Problem solved.

 

But it is not about his private life; it is about using his position to give grants & promises to others in order to benefit himself but you will never know until way after he's out of office. Is that not leading to dictatorship

 

Let's settle THAT nonsense now.

Hillary removed herself from the Clinton Foundation years ago and the CF never contributed a dime to her campaign.

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Now more than ever we need to see Trump's taxes. If he owes millions to Russian bankers...that's a problem

 

Likely reasons that Trump is hiding his taxes:

He is a lot poorer than he claims to be.
He doesn't pay taxes. ("That makes me smart".)
He doesn't want the public to know how much he has paid out in settlements and legal costs for all the lawsuits against him.
He has shady business partners.
He has significant debts to foreign banks. (This we already know to some degree).
He doesn't give money to charity.
He has more bankruptcies than he has admitted.

 

Releasing of tax returns is not legally required. The problem is that only political opponents want them released so they can find a gotcha. They're the only ones harping on this. If you're not a political opponent, hardly anyone cares and as far as I know, no one voted against Trump because he failed to release his tax returns. Those who voted against him had much more and bigger reasons than just taxes.

 

I have the distinct impression the left really just hates the fact trump has made some money in his life.
The impression also includes the belief that if he gave away everything he owned and became a pauper overnight the left would then complain he's a terrible business man unfit for office.

They want the man destroyed because he beat Hillary. They simply can't fathom the idea Hillary beat herself. That's it, end of story.

 

You site valid concerns.
Do we suspect he too might be involved in "pay for play" schemes like Hillary and her foundation?
Will anyone be surprised when if taxes reveal he has as many international contacts and dealings as the Clintons?
Did he turn his life upside down an put himself and his family at great risk just to make a few more bucks?

Money?
Trump is now playing in the big leagues. I'm not sure the appeal of triple-A ball holds much value anymore.

 

you know what this sounds like... the birther argument... you're not one of "those" people are you?

 

I have not said that anything is illegal. It's the conflict of interest. Do you think that he would agree to placing deserved sanctions on Kalististan if he has just built 3 hotels there through one of his ghost companies? Without seeing his tax return the money transfers for these developments will not be seen and you would just be amazed that Trump supports the veto against sanctions on Kalististan and will just wonder why

(my use of ghost company is one where there is no obvious link to an owner, I don't know if there is a phrase for this)

 

Apart from the foreign affairs, none in that list really matters unless any of it was illegal

 

There's no question that Trump's entire life has been motivated by greed, but that's not the problem.
The problem is that he gives the appearance of being a crook and a liar on so many levels, and hiding his taxes just makes him look worse.
Besides, he said he would release his taxes if he ran for President. Mike Pence said Trump would be releasing his taxes.
So what's he waiting for?

 

.... nor will i get my pony..... big wup

 

He will file periodical financial disclosure forms. These will be investigated against his IRS tax forms. This is done by government not you or the media. He need not even divest his holdings if he so chooses.
That's the law.
You could attempt to make it law that only homeless people be elected.

 

A financial disclosure form is just a snap shot of wealth. It does not give a balance sheet. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2838696/Trump-2016-Financial-Disclosure.pdf

It is a self certification that is not checked with tax return accounts.

Why do you think that he won't release his tax returns? An answer of he does not have to is not an answer and would only be given if he has other motives.

 

Gee we owe China and Japan billions, is that a problem too?

So if your concerned with leverage from debt you should have been complaining right after the first failed stimulus!

 

Perhaps he's waiting for the audit to be complete. Have you heard any reports the audit is done besides the screeches of a Canadian? I haven't.

Obama filed financial disclosures. Is there a two tiered system in place you'd like to make me aware of?
After the IRS scandal you really believe the leftist minions within won't scour the two seperate pieces looking for contradictions? Get real. The fifth amendment is alive and well within the progressive swamp.

 

It takes money to run a government and if Trump is not paying his share then you are paying at least some of that money

 

An audit is not carried out on everyone of his past tax returns. Obama did disclose his tax returns.

How can someone scour two separate pieces if only one is available? I have already stated that financial disclosures are self certification documents that are not certified hence for entries such as "more than $50m" or "1m to $5m" as valuations which are not verified and does not give details of initial costs or whether the list is complete.

Have you not noticed that the swamp has been deepened by the recent appointments, many from Goldman Sachs, the group that was heavily attacked by Trump supporters re: Clinton behind closed doors speech?

 

Who really give a damn if Trump has released his taxes. I can assure you he didnt make out his taxes himself, a whole group of tax lawyers filled out his taxes, then he signed the form.

 

Me for one. I want to know who he owes money to and who he's been doing business with and his taxes would show that.

And THAT is exactly why he won't disclose them...even those no longer under audit