Donald Trump Again Tweets About Losing the Popular Vote

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously, Donald, get over it. You won, and that is what matters.

    Apparently disappointed that pundits are not giving him massive kudos, or perhaps just insanely insecure, Trump once again goes on a Twitter rage about the election.

    The election that he won.

    The election that is over.

    This really makes me question the disposition and confidence of a man that was elected to be the figurative leader of the free world, which currently has some problems.

    Problems that rather than focusing on, Trump is spending time banging on his phone or computer lamenting the lack of wonder at him winning the election and of course tooting his own horn on completely irrelevant nonsense.


    http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/donal...-about-losing-popular-vote-electoral-college/


    President-Elect Donald Trump again said in a series of tweets this morning that he would have won the popular vote if he had campaigned differently.

    Trump posted three tweets seemingly at random on Wednesday praising the Electoral College system and defending his popular vote loss. This is the second time this week that the president-elect has made this argument on Twitter.

    Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 21, 2016

    I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote – but would campaign differently

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 21, 2016

    I have not heard any of the pundits or commentators discussing the fact that I spent FAR LESS MONEY on the win than Hillary on the loss!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 21, 2016

    This seems to be a direct response to cable news coverage, as the third tweet references the way that pundits have discussed his win and tries to direct their attention towards another angle. Trump has been known to watch all of the major news shows, especially the morning programs, and he often tweets his response while they are airing. Both of Trump’s angry tweets this week were posted between 8:00 and 8:30 a.m. Eastern Time.

    Hillary Clinton’s supporters have continuously raised the point over the past few weeks that Donald Trump lost by almost three million votes but won due to his victory in the Electoral College. At his rallies and on Twitter, the president-elect has shot back by saying that he would have visited different states, such as New York and California, if the election were determined by the popular vote and that in this scenario, he still would have won.

    Trump has also argued that Hillary Clinton lost the election because she spent time in the wrong states and not for any other reason. For example, Hillary Clinton made a play for Arizona in the final months of the election, but she did not visit Wisconsin a single time.

    On Monday, Trump again mocked the way that Hillary Clinton ran her campaign, although this time it was specifically in response to Bill Clinton saying that Trump won because of FBI Director James Comey.

    Bill Clinton stated that I called him after the election. Wrong, he called me (with a very nice congratulations). He "doesn't know much" …

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2016

    especially how to get people, even with an unlimited budget, out to vote in the vital swing states ( and more). They focused on wrong states

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2016

    President-Elect Donald Trump was once a critic of the Electoral College system, saying in 2012 that it is a disaster for democracy. He has since changed his tune and now believes that the system is brilliant because it ensures that the smaller states are not neglected in favor of those states with a larger population. This is the argument of those who favor keeping the Electoral College in place, and the concern is that in a system based on the popular vote, candidates would spend all of their time in New York and California but ignore states like Iowa.

    In his second tweet this morning, Trump subtly makes reference to his margin of victory, implying that he won so overwhelmingly that it’s hard to imagine a larger win. In fact, Trump’s victory in the Electoral College can hardly be considered a landslide; among 58 presidential elections, Trump’s Electoral College win comes in 46th place. However, he won by a bigger margin than George W. Bush did in 2004 and 200
     
  2. RP12

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    Both are true actually. If it was a popular vote he would have campaigned differently. He went to the middle of the country to get EC votes... Hilary focused on the popular vote.

    Hilary did far outspend him...

    I guess its better would be better for him to talk about "Angry White Men" or "My wife would have won if not for Comey" or "The Russians the Russians!" :icon_jawdrop:

    Strange that the truth is seen as offensive meanwhile we have to hear about "White Lash" and "Angry White Men"....
     
  3. Habana

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    The truth doesn't advance the agenda of the left. The neo-Marxist wing of the democrat party are struggling with the fact they will soon have no power at all and may never a get a second chance at fundamentally transforming America. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying democrats won't get elected, I'm saying they will abandon the neo-Marxists to do it.
     
  4. BroncoBilly

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    Since the population of California is what gave Clinton the popular vote, maybe you can tell us how do you know illegals didn't vote, especially since nearly a million of them have drivers license?
     
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    Unless you have proof illegals voted you are just throwing crap at the wall hoping it sticks, I believe this is what they call fake news, unless as I said you have proof?
     
  6. Sage3030

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    One can make a reasonable assumption that some did vote. Here is how:

    California issues drivers licenses to vote. You are automatically registered to vote when getting a drivers license in Cali UNLESS you check a box. We know many illegals did not check the box, so some illegals are registered to vote. While not all people registered to vote do vote, some do. Therefore it's reasonable to assume some voted.

    Key words: some, reasonable, assume

    Again we will never know for sure unless they open the books to look, which seems unlikely to ever happen, but it is completely reasonable to assume some did.
     
  7. Recovering Conservative

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    :roll: Actually neither of those things are true. Trump's campaign had no cogent strategy aside from repeating the same stump speech over and over, wherever a Trump-sized crowd could be mustered. Trump never heard of "ground game", and even after it was explained to him, he didn't do it. His grandiose pronouncements after the fact are belied by the facts, which say that he had no exotic strategy. Trump did not win those votes; they chose him, and literally nothing that he said could change their minds. And it's laughable that anyone would have a contingency plan for "the popular vote" since that was never an option in this election.


    She had little choice after the so-called "liberal media" gave away tens of billions of dollars of commercial-free, unimpeded prime time airtime to Trump, preempting everything the moment Donald approached any microphone. That's why in-kind gifts like that used to be illegal under the fairness doctrine.
     
  8. RP12

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    This is the belief system of those who still dont understand why he won....
     
  9. BroncoBilly

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    I have proof that they only need a drivers license and an address to vote, and with California not complying with immigration laws, anyone with a brain can know they voted.

    So since you liberals continue to say Clinton won the popular vote, and that Russia hacked our election, why didn't that affect the popular vote? You can't have it both ways.
     
  10. Fisherguy

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    Trump was right about one thing, he could literally shoot someone on the streets of New York City and he wouldn't lose support from his followers.
     
  11. Recovering Conservative

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    Yep. It's as if they were assigned by some other entity to support Trump, no matter what.

    Just beware--even mentioning the existence of these people is verboten here for some reason.
     
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    Well how many people are included in "the left"? they have plenty of time to waste (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing. Trump though, its worrisome that he's so worried about it, this close to being sworn in. Speaks to some pretty questionable priorities, and doesn't he have lackey's that can do that for him? Hopefully that's all it is. Speaks, also of his confidence.
     
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    :roll: Another post attacking the person. Shame!
     
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    Appears Trump has some mental issues if he needs constant reassurance in this manner. Dude won - he needs to grow up and play the part.
     
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    Maybe she would have gotten more air time if she hadn't kept the press roped off. And the MSM still covered for her, some getting permission to air from her campaign staff. That bit of strategy back fired. She also disappeared for about a month after the convention. As far as the ground game, we were constantly being told how superior hers was, and now you're saying he had no ground game, but he won.
    Every day a new excuse for why she lost. Pathetic.
     
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    That's assuming that he has the ability to grow up after 70 years. I'd say offhand that his failure to handle everyday situations with some level of grace is a warning sign of an instability that no person holding the nuclear codes should be struggling with.

    We can only hope that they don't trust Trump, and appoint a regent to handle those things, as they did with Dubya.
     
  17. Thirty6BelowZero

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    It only takes a little common sense. I'll break it down for you.

    Los Angeles County votes: 3,434,308
    Clinton %: 71.4%
    Latino pop: 49.3%

    Huntington Park, just one of the many cities inside this county, is 49% Latino, and 99% of those Latinos are foreign born.

    I can guarantee you there were tons of illegal votes in California, and a recount would show evidence of it. That state is dishonest, they harbor illegal aliens and are even talking about seceding from this country to become a sanctuary state. I know they had illegal voters, and you know they had illegal voters. The only difference is that you refuse to admit it. I know you're smarter than that, to think Southern Californians voted honestly.
     
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    No where near as many as they would like to think.

    He's so worried he made a couple of tweets, it really must be eating him up. Or maybe he's rubbing the left's nose in their lose yet again.
     
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    By what logic are you claiming that? Citations, please. As I recall, Trump put the press in cattle pens and had the crowds harass them. So double-standard much?


    I'd say that making straw men to scapegoat is mighty pathetic. The fact remains that the Trump campaign got unlawful partisan and foreign support. That will forever taint his name with illegitimacy. And Donald will be forever angry because he knows that he didn't win the election, it was rigged for him by bigger fish. Fish who now own him.
     
  20. Thirty6BelowZero

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    No, Trump won those people over. Trump didn't search for and go just to places where he thought a crowd could be "mustered." You sound sour over this whole election. Trump pulled in tens of thousands wherever he went, even having to cancel in places like Chicago even thought tens of thousands were waiting to hear his speech. Trump hit city after city and state after state where it counted the most while drawing thousands and thousands at every stop so if that's not a ground game, but pulling in a hundred here and there at a bi-weekly rally is, you need to be re-educated on what a ground game is.

    That liberal media spent 15 minutes every morning, noon, and evening covering Trump negatively, and ignored all negatives about Clinton while trying to pump her up positively so I don't know why you put it between quotation marks.
     
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    Maybe he is .but under another name.
     
  22. Thirty6BelowZero

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    And who did you support?
     
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    I like folks who claim they voted for Trump and then fly their flag upside down once he wins. Trump is absolutely right about this. Outside of CA and NY Trump won the popular vote by a multi-million vote margin. The Elector College was designed to ensure that a regional candidate didn't win the national election, and it worked perfectly.

    Yeah Constitution!
     
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    Either one is a pretty bad, and indicative of a mind that's clearly not focused on leading the free world.
     
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    I don't recall cattle pens. Citations please. You have no proof that it was Russia. None.
    The unlawful partisan and foreign support came from illegals in California voting for the beast.
    Your supposed genius of a politician had the W.H., the justice dept, the IRS, the MSM and 1.2 billion dollars, prior knowledge of the questions she'd be asked and she still couldn't beat a novice.
    Trumps rallys were huge. Hillary had to bus people in or she'd be talking to an empty room.
     

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