Of Trump Talk and Wish Fulfillment

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The reality tv performer’s presidential campaign evoked the image of the late pitchman supreme, Billy Mays, speed-rapping frothy superlatives in a marathon, late-night infomercial.

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    Soon, all Americans, not just the easily-led who were smitten by his copious gewgaws, will be channeling Spartacus, all declaring, “I am an Alumnus of Trump® U!”

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    Still, in his encyclopedic torrent of vows, the Casino Mogul who enticed so many to roll the dice in the voting booth occasionally lurched into sensibility.

    Who would oppose his resolve to empower the federal bureaucracy to fulfill these admirable commitments?

    • Preserve Medicare and Medicaid.

    • Fully protect Social Security benefits.

    • Bring down drug prices by importing cheaper medications from overseas and allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

    • Spur the spending of $1 trillion in public and private dollars on infrastructure projects over 10 years.

    • Create “thousands of new jobs in construction, steel manufacturing, and other sectors” to carry out this work.

    • Invest in “transportation, clean water, a modern and reliable electricity grid, telecommunications, security infrastructure,
      and other pressing domestic infrastructure needs”

    • Expand vocational and technical training programs.

    • Ensure that jobs are waiting for high school and college graduates.

    • Ensure the country has “absolutely crystal clear and clean water” and “beautiful, immaculate air.”

    • Rewrite the tax code to allow parents to fully deduct child-care expenses for up to four children and elderly dependents.
      (Some of these expenses are already deductible under the law.)

    • Institute a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave office.
      (Trump is already having staff and Cabinet members sign pledges.)

    • Institute a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

    • Ban foreign lobbyists from raising money for American elections.

    • Oppose the killing of journalists. “I hate some of these people, but I would never kill them.”

    • Fix the background check system used when purchasing guns to ensure states are properly uploading criminal and health records.

    • Create “jobs and opportunities for African Americans and Hispanic Americans.”

    • Add incentives for employers that offer on-site child care to employees. Trump has said companies can “very easily” and inexpensively
      do this because “you need one person or two people, and you need some blocks and you need some swings and some toys.”

    • Guarantee six weeks of paid maternity leave by amending the conditions of unemployment insurance employers are required to carry.

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    The comprehensive list of 282 such promises can be found here, and much of it is quite amusing!


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  2. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I wanted Trump to do one thing: beat Hillary.
    He delivered.
    Thus, I have all I want from him.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Most Americans are not members of a personality cult, pro or con, and view elections as the prelude to actual governance.

    It will be interesting to maintain the list of Trump's 282 campaign promises, and check off each as it is achieved.
     
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    I don't care.
    Hillary lost, I win.
    :clapping:
     
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    From what I have observed, a rather large numbers of Americans if not the majority, were members of a "media cult", which is very similar to a personality cult. The members of the media cult blocked all information, propaganda, and news that came from sources outside of the lefty media cult, imposing ignorance upon themselves, and they perpetuated this cult media as if it was the only media that existed. This is why the members of the lefty media cult were completely blindsided by the Trump victory, even when it was coming at them like a locomotive with the horn blasting.

    The lefty media cult is powerful, and the cult members continue to drink the cult juice, even after they were blindsided so badly. They have gone on to do recounts that don't make sense, they have waited for the EC to overturn the election, they have accused Russia of hacking a win for Trump, and they are now onto how to impeach Trump. It does not surprise me to see the pessimism in your OP, but the longer lefty temper tantrums persist, the more it delights me to see another lefty squeal and cry out. Thanks for the squeal, you made my day.
     
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    Trump has already done more than any president in recent history. Watching the left cry like babies is the best gift of all.
     
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    We weren't born yesterday. As long as he is able to accomplish some of his goals, I will be happy. He has already started and hasn't been sworn in yet. Did you see that Dow? Obama delivered nada and look how many times HE lied and still his minions overlook all of his catastrophic faults, and adore and worship him anyway. When are they going to look farther than his skin color and Zero in on exactly what he DID? Your skin color can't be your only "accomplishment." After all, he is half white too, and the white half raised him.
     
  8. Natty Bumpo

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    That sounds like a feeble rationalization hardcore Trumpies might try to contrive, like pretending with no evidence that there were millions of illegal voters who all voted for Clinton to account for her popular vote total.

    While there are media outlets that pander to niche markets, left and right, the corporate media in general is fixated upon profit, not promoting one candidate or another.

    Yes, many of the failed Republicans who aspired to the presidential nomination were pissy because the reality tv performer received billions in free coverage, but that was because he made for a better story and sold newspapers, magazines, and attracted viewership, not because there was agenda other than profit, although paranoids are bound to entertain their notions.

    Some are informed by the broad range of media; others will only believe what they are told by their messiah.

    By enumerating his promises and responsibly following how often he keeps his word?

    I'm pleased to hear it. It behooves all patriotic Americans to demand veracity from their elected leaders.
     
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    It is not a problem if Trump does not keep promises. Dems have already shown how to handle that. Just blame Bush, Congress, Russians, etc...
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    He promised 282 that were listed. I assume that you have no problem keeping track of which and how many he fulfills.
     
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    You sound like a great flatu, so save it. Trump's victory was decisive, Hillary got creamed. Over here on the right, we don't feel feeble after demolishing your candidate over and over. We view lefties who are still having temper tantrums as the feeble ones.
     
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    Decisive in the sense that there was an indisputable outcome
    Decisive in the sense of being overwhelming.... not so much
    Yeah, she definitely lost
    But as rightists so often pointed out... she was a horrible candidate
     
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    Obama promised to reduce the national debt - but instead increased it more than all other presidents combined. To even just do no worse than Obama Trump would have to increase the national debt to over 40 trillion.
     
  14. Natty Bumpo

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    Your right/left fixation is irrelevant.

    65,844,610 Americans voted for Clinton, but Trump received 305 electoral votes. Under the rules, that makes him the winner of the 2016 presidential election.

    Obviously, in listing his campaign promises, I'm taking for granted that he will be sworn into office on January 20.

    Expecting any elected official to keep his promises is not some dastardly, subversive plot you need fear.

    It is simply holding a soon-to-be politician to account, a democratic imperative.

    Will he honour his pledges to preserve Medicare and Medicaid, fully protect Social Security benefits, bring down drug prices by importing cheaper medications from overseas and allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, spur the spending of $1 trillion in public and private dollars on infrastructure projects, create “thousands of new jobs in construction, steel manufacturing, and other sectors” to carry out this work, invest in “transportation, clean water, a modern and reliable electricity grid, telecommunications, security infrastructure, etc.?

    I certainly hope so, and see no reason to disbelieve him before he has a chance to achieve what he has promised.



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    If he does all those things he will be GOAT.. If he does a good bit he will be one of the best.

    I like it.
     
  16. Natty Bumpo

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    That was said of Reagan as well, of course, (from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion) and the respective presidents' defenders point to Congress that is responsible for the budget.

    The cogent question is "What has Trump promised regarding the national debt? Harkening back to Reagan or Obama is futile.


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    It's interesting that some of his fans become so flustered when it is suggested that we not forget what he promised to do.
     
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    Well its not really his choice all the time.

    We have a system in place.
     
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    Nah, we will just wait for your continued whining. That will be entertaining enough.
     
  20. doombug

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    If he cannot fulfill them it will be obama's fault. There ya go.
     
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    Being an optimist I will agree. If he does even half of these things he isn't going to have time for any mass deportations or wall building

    The problem is that I don't see anything he has done so far as being properly preparatory to fulfilling these promises.

    Particularly his cabinet appointments would make it seem he wants to dismantle Medicare and even Social Security if he can but it is possible I am seeing things that aren't there.

    He deserves at least the actual 3 months in office all the conservatives gave Obama before I heard. "how's that hope and change working out fer ya"?
     
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    Yes, the capability of all presidents is circumscribed, but that does not served as an excuse to ignore the campaign promises they have made and whether they make a credible effort to honour their words.

    If any president makes a sincere effort to keep his vows, he can't be faulted for breaking them because of circumstances beyond his control.

    We have a litany of 258 Trump promises. Observing whether he keeps them is a conscientious, patriotic responsibility of all the citizenry.
     
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    That he has not even been sworn in and some are hysterical that his promises should be mentioned says much about his cult, but nothing about him.

    Among his copious assurances, he promised to preserve Medicare and Medicaid and fully protect Social Security benefits.

    At present, I have no reason to believe he lied.
     
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    All presidents should be expected to keep - or, at least, try to keep - their campaign promises.

    Americans have a list of 282 that the president-elect has made.

    Anyone who becomes upset at the expectation that he will keep his word exposes a contempt for veracity and the American people.

    The nation shall have only one president, and desperate attempts to divert attention from truth-in-advertising by directing attention elsewhere are futile.

    In the matter of an American president being honest with Americans, the reality tv entertainer is in the spotlight for the next four years, no one else.
     
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