Experts Destroy White House ‘Proof’ of Russian Hacking

Thank you for proving my point about Trump's extremist alt right supporters.

 

I never said it coudn't be copied or modified ? You and yours seem to be so focused on the forensics left behind as the ONLY evidence pointing to Russia. Of course that single piece of evidence proves nothing. Almost every piece of Ransomware today originates from original code designed by a Russian hacker. But they way they find the real perpetrators is to follow the money after the fact. This same technique was used to find the real perpetrators of this hack.

You understand that we have a YUUUUGGEEEE intelligence community that has many other ways to find out who did it. Its ridiculous to think that the entirety of the intelligence community based their conclusions on one single piece of forensic evidence. But any "expert" who builds their defense on that single piece of evidence is no expert. But then again, your cherrypicking comments from a full statement.

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I cant, the same as you cant prove it wasn't the russians.

You think Im going after Trump, when alli am saying is that when all 3 branches say it was the russians, now the right is doing everything to defend it.

If I cant prove it was, how the hell can you prove it wasn't ?

 

with the way Obama and Hillary regarded cyber security it could have been 100 or more different hacks, Russia just being one of the many

 

I also can't prove it was Chuck Conners either. That doesn't mean I should be stupid enough to assume that.

That's exactly what you are doing. Its not a secret.

The 3 branches have not said it was the Russians. All you have is unnamed sources which is why they have provided no evidence whatsoever. You want to embrace this conspiracy theory because you hate Trump like the rest of the liberals. Its not rocket science.

 

What confuses you with what the NSA whistleblower says? Or what the experts are saying about the Report.

Even Rolling Stone Mag says something isn't Right. The Report provided no evidence. Just assumptions.

 

The reason they couldn't hack the RNC was the Repubs Hired a security firm that was in touch with the FBI. Goes back to when the Repubs found out Hillary and her people were using her Private servers.

Why is it you cant hold the Demos responsible for their incompetency? Why don't you fault Hillary and her people and lay the blame on.....who it belongs to?

 

Assange does not make his living by stealing anything. It is given to him by sources (you know, like journalism is supposed to work). And sure, Assange is capable of lying, and lying is also in the job description of intelligence agencies. But Assange KNOWS, they don't. All they can do is say that someone left tracks to indicate that Russians were hacking. But that doesn't mean Russia was the source. To make that assumption is to assume that the Russians were the only ones with the information. And that is a stupid assumption.

 

Correct they know the Chinese got into the Office of the OPM at State Dept. Whos people were still in the State Dept Obstructing the Benghazi investigation and the State Depts own watchdog?

 

2 questions for the libs

Where was all this outrage when the State Department and WH hacks were going on? Seems as if they Dems not give a crap about national security being compromised but air a Dem politician's dirty laundry and all hell breaks loose

If you left someone house sitting and they had a party and let all the guests ransack your house would you be most pissed at the guests who took the stuff to the idiot who left the front door open for them. Hillary and Obama both left the front doors open to both National and party cyber data so what the eff fo you expect. Just me but I would be pretty PO'ed at both of them

 

I am amazed that so called cyber experts would presume to think they have access to all of the bells and whistles that American Intelligence Cyber operations have at their disposal.
Everyone seems to forget where the VAST BULK of the technology used throughout the world comes from in the first place while presuming that some how these hackers are smarter and better equipped than they are.

Wonder what all these russian apologists have to say about the REE (Russian Eurasian Empire) dream that Putin and his right wing oligarchs have wet dreams about.

Newsflash: THE COLD WAR NEVER ENDED! It just took a breather while the USSR collapsed under its own weight. The Russians are not the friends of America nor do they have America's best interests at heart. They'd just luv to shove one right up the old yankee fundament and it seems they just might do it too.

 

Of course!!! I listened to John McAfee cite the same thing. Russia is not some 3rd world nation and are very skilled at this stuff. In other words, they cover their tracks just like we do when we indulge in this stuff.

Plus the person who leaked these emails said Russia was not the source. Unlike the CIA, assange is not a professional liar. You have got to be out of your ever loving mind to believe the CIA. And if Russia is to blame, the NSA is the intel gathering agency that would have the goods on Russia.

But whoever did turn the emails over to assange did America a favor for revealing the banana republic behavior within the DNC, and yet where is the outrage on this? If this were the RNC, MSM would still be reporting it, and you know it.

This is politically driven, end of that story, and as we have already discovered, our intel can no longer be trusted, and anyone who does is a damned idiot. Russia of course will be blamed, for the US gov't is now controlled by neocons, which the CIA loves, as the CIA had its own war going on against Russia. Russia was on the neocon list, along with Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Libya. If you cannot connect these obvious dots as to what is going on now with the accusations towards Russia, get your eyes checked, but only if you are actually interested in what the truth is, and we can hardly accuse the democrats or republicans of wanting that. The American people are marks and have these confidence games run on them often. And clearly far too many of us do not have critical brains, and are just good herd animals, forever lost in this wilderness of disinfo. Makes me embarrassed that we have so many village idiots within our borders. You could sell these people high elevation land in Florida.

Blind partisanship is used, for you can fool any partisan by simply telling him what he wants to hear. Truth never enters in. Our grade school kids were smarter 60 years ago than the mis-educated college grads are today. We have turned into a nation of American idiots is what it looks like.

 

Someone did break the law and released Trumps tax returns and gave them to the N.Y. Times who completed the crime and published them. -> < http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/01/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html?_r=0 > I wonder how the Obama's DOJ investigation is coming along on who gave Trump's tax returns to the N.Y. Times ?

That's right, the same N.Y. Times that published the SECRET "Pentagon Papers" that the leftist Democrat operative Daniel Ellsberg removed from the RAND and turned over to the N.Y. Times ?

The N.Y. Times did nothing different than what Wikileaks does.

You don't know that. Some say that the RNC was also hacked. Julian Assange was asked about RNC e-mails and said he had four pages and there's nothing there. Wikileaks exposes corruption, if there was no corruption taking place with in the NRC there's nothing for Wikileaks to publish.

FYI: If the RNC were as corrupt as the DNC it would be President-elect Jeb Bush today.

The RNC also does things different compared to the DNC, unless things have changed they back up there e-mails on paper and erase them from their e-mail accounts after 90 days.

It was Podesta, the Hillary campaign and the DNC who went stupid and allowed hackers to gain access to their e-mails.

Neither Podesta or Hillary were government employees at the time of the hacking and the DNC is not part of the federal government but is a private organization that Wikileaks revealed was a corrupt banana republic political organization.

Now Podesta was part of of the Obama transition team (2008 - 2009 ) and used G-mail. He should have erased all of those e-mails back in 2009 but being an incompetent leftist progressive, he didn't.

There were no federal government top secret information compromised as some low information claim.

Was there an attempt to influence the elections ???

Wikileaks did the job that the MSM should have done. But as we found out from the DNC and Pedosta hacked e-mails that the MSM ( CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, the Washington Post and the New York Times ) were all in collusion with the DNC and the Hillary campaign to influence the out come of the elections.

 

No, the credibility is GONE when the evidence is not given. Determining who a hacker is, is not top secret info. The tools used are not top secret. The only reason evidence has not been given, and the reason the CIA would not appear before the intel committee is because they lack the evidence. They have only conjectured.

SO, why do you want the people who have lost trust in their own gov't to suddenly trust them, when they refuse to give us the evidence? What does this make you? I smell just a partisan who really does not give a hoot about facts and truth, and would rather others would be like you. Trust but never verify. Fact is, you cannot be trusted, i.e. your non critical thinking brain.

 

Uh, the only time when we learn of dirty (*)(*)(*)(*) coming from our politicians is when something is stolen, in one way or another, and real deal journalists speak truth to power. I know you do not want this when it is your party being caught, and so now speaking truth to power is off the table.

Assange speaks truth to power by using leaked info, from various people. He has never been shown to be a liar, which makes no difference to you. You are not interested in facts, just another herd member following your leader. If the leader is a liar, corrupt, makes no difference. For it reinforces an incoherent confirmation bias.

So give us the evidence, have it critically looked at by other non intel experts, and if it says it is Russia, and that the evidence shows assange is lying, only then will we believe it. But there is too much smoke here that something is not quite kosher about what amounts to conjecture.

It looks like damage control by a corrupt DNC, and democratic party, who got caught. Since they cannot defend what they did, what are they to do? Blame it on Russia of course. LOL. So transparent, and critical brains notice that from the get-go. The brain dead then will be easily fooled.

 

You assume that Trump and the RNC are as corrupt and colluding as Hillary and the DNC, an accusation you can't support with facts. Now back to reality, Hillary and the DNC were exposed as the frauds and liars we all knew they were and exposing it did a service for America.

 

So what? All they did was expose Democrat power moves and lies. All this fuss is noise to reinforce the myth that Hillary lost because of some conspiracy. She lost because she, along with Obama policies, was rejected by Americans. Cyber intrusions are common and America is pretty good at it in our own right. If Hillary had won we wouldn't even be discussing it. It's an atrocity without a victim.

 

They are "progressives". Lying and corruption are inherent in their ideology and personal behavior. Everyone knows that particularly after all the emails and video exposure.

 

Attkinson continues to make BO peep and his team look bad





Eight Facts on the “Russian Hacks” .....


There’s no standing allegation by U.S. officials that the Russians (or anyone else) “hacked” into our elections system or altered vote counts.


The joint report can be summarized this way:
•The U.S. believes two hacking groups tied to the Russian government are involved.
•The U.S. has nicknamed the hacking groups “APT28” or “Fancy Bear,” and “APT29” or “Cozy Bear.” APT stands for “Advanced Persistent Threat.”
•The U.S. believes the GRU, Russia’s military service, is behind APT28.
•The U.S. believes the FSB, Russia’s counterintelligence agency headquartered in the building of the former KGB, is behind APT29.
•The U.S. believes the groups accessed “a political party” by sending emails that tricked users into clicking links that planted malware or directed them to Russian servers.
•The U.S. believes APT29 entered into “the party’s systems” in summer 2015, and APT28 in spring 2016.
•The U.S. believes APT28 provided the stolen emails to WikiLeaks, which WikiLeaks denies.
Most of the 13-page joint report provides advice on how to secure computer networks...



7. There have been many serious cyberattacks reported against U.S. government institutions, but no comparable news coverage or announced U.S. retaliatory measures. For example:
•In 2015, Russian hackers attacked the State Department email system in what was called the “worst ever” cyberattack against a federal agency.
•Also in 2015, the U.S. Office of Personnel Management reported 5.6 million Americans’ fingerprints were stolen in a malicious cyberattack.
•The GAO reports that between 2006 and 2015, the number of cyberattacks climbed 1,300 percent — from 5,500 to over 77,000 a year at 24 federal agencies.
•Last March, China government hackers continued a malicious pattern of cyber attacks on U.S. government and private networks, according to U.S. Cyber Command chief Mike Rogers. China has been linked by U.S. intelligence agencies to wide-ranging cyber attacks aimed at stealing information and mapping critical computer networks for future attacks in a crisis or conflict.

Despite the Chinese hacking activity, the Obama administration has taken no action against China for years of large-scale cyber attacks that officials say have cost the nation billions of dollars in stolen intellectual property and compromised networks.


Additionally, there have been no publicly-known retaliatory actions taken by the U.S. for hostile, non-cyber foreign threats such as Chinese fighter jets buzzing U.S. warships and spy planes, and Iran detaining 10 U.S. sailors. (However, the U.S. punished the sailors.)


https://sharylattkisson.com/eight-facts-on-the-russian-hacks/

 

I find it amusing you think the US government cyber security is better than the private sector. That tells me all I need to know about your lack of decent information in this area.

 

And Jill Stein confirmed this with her little recount nonsense....

It's mind boggling how delusional progressives are.......

I don't know how anyone with any brains can look at the DNC and want to be part of it.... I have never seen such dysfucntion in my life....

Now they're just making stuff up as they go along and their minions buy everything they say.....

We're seriously in Orwellian times with these progressives.

 

Hurry along inauguration time then Donald can remove these fools from office then they won't be able to do any harm - such as kicking off WW3!

 

So if I've got this right, these illegals might have more disposable income than someone in full-time work and is paying full taxes, which taxes are then given to illegals so they can go out and buy a car AND still have enough left over to fuel it, insure it, and maintain it? No, I can't have it right - that would be too surreal. 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy . . . '

 

Oh pulllleeeezzzzz, all you need to buy a car is a pulse

We are a nation of laws, and none of us should be able to choose what laws we want to obey without consequence. End of story, or we can enter into to being a banana republic like so many on the left are pushing us to. Thankfully Trump, along with the justice department and law enforement will put an end to this choosing what laws we obey

 

So you think illegals have car insurance? That is hilarious!