Sustainables now!

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  1. Laurence123

    Laurence123 Member

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    For those dependents on fossil fuels and nuclear power for energy sources should be trained for the transference of their positions to a new mandatory lawful requirement of the use of sustainable energy sources in a swift manner such as geothermal, solar, tidal, kinetic and wind energy collection systems. Also whatever materials may be actually recycled should be mandated by law across the United States.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any type of energy must be affordable to the consumer and profitable to the supplier - and there ain't gonna be no 'mandatory' about it.
     
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    Nuclear energy is sustainable. Just as sustainable as the machinery that is used to make solar panels, wind turbines and every other machines that harnesses energy.

    Uranium can be depleted and used for tank armor.

    And BTW, first demand China and India clean up their acts.
     
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    Yes, we know from Chernobyl, Fukushima, and Three Mile Island, how safe it is.

    The more fissionable materials we use, the greater the odds that terrorists gain access to them.

    Did you see the videos of security guards at nuclear power plants sleeping on the job right after 911? If they didn't take security seriously right after 911, then they never will. What could terrorists with the proper background do if they gained control of a nuclear power plant, or ten? How hard would it be to overpower the guards at a plant?
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about building a wall, kicking out all the criminal aliens and not taking visitors or immigrants from terrorist Islamic nations?

    I also like a Muslim registry. That's even better than a firearms registry!
     
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    Uh...Just no....There are about 500 nuclear power plants around the world yet you choose to cite 3 that had problems that never amounted to any global catastrophe.
     
  8. Laurence123

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    To trackersam it is not about profitability to me and many others as it is about what is cleaner, safer and more sustainable for our future. As to the affordability sustainables I hope will prove to be both that and profitable because if they weren't people wouldn't be trading in futures prospects like they are. My idea would also make us less dependant on fossil fuels. Remember that the use of moving parts will most likely always require even sustainable energy sources make use of crude oil. Also I must mention that pharmaceuticals and plastics are becoming more why we utilize oil so much. No longer with the technology that the futurist human mind has created should our grid and automobiles use fossil fuels.
     
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    The dog wags the tail, not the other way around. The consumer will dictate what energy will be used and at what price. Alternatives cost too much and can't compete with oil.
     
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    Let me throw a fact, a pubic hair into your cup of Fantasy Soup. We are nowhere close to achieving non fossil fuel, non nuclear, energy independence. I wish we were. It isn't that it is possible to go green, it is impossible to replace fossil fuel energy, with what you mentioned. We need a new energy source, like zero point energy, or some great leap in non fossil fuel, non nuclear energy production. Nuclear scares me much more than fossil.

    In order for the world to move away from fossil and nuclear requires something more than we currently have. Unless you want to toss your AC, your heaters, and other thing and live as the world did in 1850. But with 7 billion of us, we would deforest the planet in short order for firewood..
     
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    Basically speaking, until we have a way to store solar and other environmental based energy (wind, etc.), we can't give up on nuclear and fossil fuels for electricity. In the sunbelt in the summer, solar electricity is a good idea. Peak electrical demand here is in the hottest part of the day, when we are getting the most solar input. Solar would be a good supplement, now that it's getting cheaper.
     
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    It is becoming more and more affordable. Why do you think coal mines are closing?

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    And that is as always the main aim as a supplement
     

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