Clapper: No Evidence Russians Changed Votes in Presidential Election...

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  1. BoDiddly

    BoDiddly Member

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    Aha! Ahahaha! Is this guy serious!? I gotta ask. I just gotta! How would you respond? Go.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do the persons who pretty basically phished some emails have to come from Russia?
     
  3. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    The ones you RAN from.

    Where were you when China stole millions of documents? Where was this act of war mentality then? Where were you when Obama spent 300k interfering with Israel's election? Where were you when he sent his own brown shirt operatives to Israel to try and get Netanyahu out of power?

    I dare you to answer.

    We don't know. That's the point.

    Let's see if you have the backbone to answer my questions. I don't hold out a lot of hope you can do it.
     
  4. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Just Fake News so far.

    “At one point we learn that the code name the U.S. intelligence community has given to Russian cyber shenanigans is GRIZZLY STEPPE, a sexy enough detail.

    But we don't learn much at all about what led our government to determine a) that these hacks were directed by the Russian government, or b) they were undertaken with the aim of influencing the election, and in particular to help elect Donald Trump.

    The problem with this story is that, like the Iraq-WMD mess, it takes place in the middle of a highly politicized environment during which the motives of all the relevant actors are suspect. Nothing quite adds up.”

    “And reports by some Democrat-friendly reporters – like Kurt Eichenwald, who has birthed some real head-scratchers this year, including what he admitted was a baseless claim that Trump spent time in an institution in 1990 – have attempted to argue that Trump surrogates may have been liaising with the Russians because they either visited Russia or appeared on the RT network. Similar reporting about Russian scheming has been based entirely on unnamed security sources.” ROLLING STONE, Something About This Russia Story Stinks
    Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment, By Matt Taibbi, 12/30/16.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

    Wake up.
     
  5. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pure bull(*)(*)(*)(*), as for myself it's the bad guys (being the proof is forth coming) caught the other bad guys being corrupt(proof already exposed). Why would Putin support Trump knowing Trump is going to reinstate our military (one that Pinocchio dismantled to it's former glory)? Lib logic at it's worst. First and foremost our enemies are the corrupt wing of the DNC, America haters all, including Pinocchio himself.
     
  6. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    No hacking was needed. A Democrat whistleblower with access gave the email to WikiLeaks.
    There are still honest people working in the DNC.
     
  7. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmm..., So you deny the testimony of Jake Clapper? While Barack Obama interfered with the Israeli election by actually sending U.S. operatives to assist opposition to Netanyahu and you have nothing to say about that.
     
  8. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Some of them finally caught onto the Clintons.

    “"I am currently trending on both Twitter and Facebook. Why? Because Americans want more than warmongers and fools," Stein tweeted. "Despite Hillary's penchant for flip-flopping rhetoric, she's spent decades serving the causes of the Wall Street, war, & Walmart economy." AP, Who's Jill Stein? Googlers are asking, and the answer is: Clinton's new problem, Alexander Panetta, 7/13/16.

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/who-s-j...the-answer-is-clinton-s-new-problem-1.2985936

    The DP/RP establishment is full of "warmongers" like the Clintons, Graham and McCain.
     
  9. Ddyad

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    Podesta's password was apparently "password".

    So, copies of DNC email are probably in basements from North Pole Alaska to McMurdo.
     
  10. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG, I laughed so hard, I almost spit up my evening sip of Shiraz. Isn't it funny that Barack Obama and his cabal have been heavily involved with the distribution of so much Progressive Socialist disinformation and propaganda it makes Edward Bernays and Joseph Goebbels blush and now point fingers at Russia and Putin.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    There is nothing the NSA, DIA, CIA, FBI or any other agency could have done to stop this, it was a email phish.

    Just amazing isn't and people wanted Clinton to be President with Podesta at her side sending emails over unsecured servers.
     
  12. Ddyad

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    "Specific information" from the email? Shhh!
    They really do not want to talk about that. Hence all the fake news.
     
  13. The Mello Guy

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    They hacked on party and released one party's emails while cosying up to trump lol I guess that's a big coincidence

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    Of course we do. We also bomb other countries, would you defend someone bombing us on the same grounds?
     
  14. Ronstar

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    100% false.
     
  15. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    100% true.

    “'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' (*)Murray said. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

    He said the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.’”

    “’I don't understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn't true,' he said. 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...termediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html

    A credible source Vs. the US intel bureaucracy and the MSM - no contest.
     
  16. Pollycy

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    When you boil it all down (a LOT to boil down), Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, said that there was nothing about any of this that had an effect on the election. OK. And he also indicated that they don't really know where the hell the leaked information came from, but he and the intel community have assumed it was Russians, even though Assange flatly denies that. And, we're told that we will finally be given conclusive proof, of something, next week. OK.

    This isn't going to be very hard to prove. IF it was all so blatantly obvious that the Russians deliberately manipulated the election so that Donald Trump would win, the evidence and proof will stick out like a sore thumb. I'm surprised that we haven't already been given the proof... if it exists.... So, I'll withhold final judgement until we see this convincing proof, but it had better make sense to all of us who are reasonably familiar with IT or the "intel community", along with the Obama regime and a handful of RINO lackeys in Congress, are going be very embarrassed.... And never, ever forget one important thing -- on the Internet, anyone can pretend to be anyone else, and by clever use of networks, redirects, IP addresses, and even fairly simple credentials, make it look very genuine. So, enough "teaser" -- on to the PROOF!

    [​IMG] "Holy crap! It must be Putin 'cause this tunneler was nested in Russia! Who else would do that?!" :roflol:
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    No I'm not they are included in my statement. Are you of the mistaken belief they are some government entity? They are a private organization who did a lousy job of teaching their people how protect their emails as in not giving someone your password.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    You made a statement of fact that it was the Russians and they did it on his behalf. That has a specific meaning so prove or admit you have no such evidence and it is your utter conjecture.

    .

    Do the same that is, so why all the hyped up outrage and calling it an act of war?
     
  19. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    We know that Lying Crooked Hillary received debate questions hours before the debates. We know that she rigged the primaries against Bernie.
    We know that she bunks with a foreign agent.
    We know that she got a couple million more votes than Trump.
    If the Russians helped Trump to win the election the Earth is a rectangular triangle.
     
  20. The Mello Guy

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    I've never called it an act of war
     
  21. Burzmali

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    You can stop there. No need to make yourself look silly going off about stuff that doesn't rebut my point.
     
  22. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I sure didn't deny what he said. There's that feigned (or not) obtuseness. I see you couldn't resist the urge to deflect from how pointless and nutty your OP was.
     
  23. Zorro

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    As long as they thought Hillary was going to win, they didn't seem particularly concerned about this. Weren't we all assured that Hillary's use of a private improperly secured server posed no national security risks?
     
  24. Wehrwolfen

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    "U.S. officials declined to say whether the intercepted communications were cited in the classified version of the report commissioned by Obama, and they emphasized that while the messages were seen as strong indicators of Moscow’s intent and clear preference for Trump, they were not regarded as conclusive evidence of Russian intelligence agencies’ efforts to achieve that outcome".
     
  25. MMC

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    First off.....you would need to know what you talking about. Let us know when you catch up with reality. Then get back to us. As your winging it. Just doesn't help any credibility that you thought you had.
     

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