Is Putin Smarter Than Trump?

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  1. Deno

    Deno Well-Known Member

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    What a friggin joke....

    putin stomped all over obama's red line in Syria.

    It's obama and clinton that have been shown for toothless fools.

    obama inherited a stable Iraq, obama pulled out and isis was born.

    obama has left the middle east in flames.

    obama is a muslim version of neville chamberlain.
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are these the same 'dumbs' in Wisc, Mich, Fla, Pa that voted for Obama in 8 and 12? These people just happened to get 'dumb' in 16?
     
  3. Margot2

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    Iraq was NEVER stable.. ISIS was born in 2004...

    Think about it Maliki is sitting in Tehran NOW trashing Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Kurds.
     
  4. Deno

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    I know Trump is President and

    hillary and all the left have been sent packing.
     
  5. Deno

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    I knew I could catch a fish with this.......

    So, was obama lying when he said Iraq was stable?
     
  6. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Trump is naïve and when Hildi says the same things she's somehow diplomatic? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...sia-praise-but-emails-show-praised-putin.html
    “I would love it if we could continue to build a more positive relationship with Russia,” Clinton said during a speech to Goldman Sachs on June 4, 2013. In the same speech, Clinton said “obviously we would very much like to have a positive relationship with Russia and we would like to see Putin be less defensive toward a relationship with the United States so that we could work together on some issues.”
     
  7. ellesdee

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    We'll have to wait and see. Already Russia supports a man accused of war crimes just so they can keep their military bases intact in Syria. There's rumors they supported some of those crimes, too. They are massing missile defense systems near Poland. If Putin takes advantage of a soft stance on Russia by Trump to take back land, and Trump turns a blind eye to possible Russian war crimes, I'd say Putin is a hell of a lot smarter than Trump.

    It all remains to be seen, but Putin is a trained manipulator. Now, perhaps Trump is too, but that art of the manipulation in business is no where near as ruthless as KGB training.
     
  8. ButterBalls

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    Well Putin may or may not be fooling Trump that's yet to be seen, on the other hand Hillary had half this nation manipulated, and that's truly alarming!
     
  9. Deno

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    Looks like you might be on to something...
     
  10. Margot2

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    Wishful thinking .. Bush had signed the SOFA and installed Maliki.
     
  11. Deno

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    You did not answer the question.

    Was obama lying when he said Iraq was stable.

    Please don't "look Squirrel" on me again.
     
  12. Germania

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    He's not dumb. You can't be dumb and pull off the biggest political upset in 100 years and shock even the Republicans. There's a method to madness. He's unrestrained and wild, which is a little dumb, but overall he's not dumb.

    Putin is shrewd and restrained. Quiet and smart
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    Because two years ago, he wasn't even in politics, and now he's President elect, and he destroyed two long time political dynasties, the Clintons and Bushes, on the way to doing it.
     
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    I use the phrase chess player in that geopolitics is like playing the game of chess.

    From Websters:
    Warning:
    About to use Wikipedia as a unreliable source.

    One thing that gives Trump an advantage over other world leaders, Trump earned a BS in economics.
     
  15. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well...Obama let our security get hacked by the Chinese and his 'reset button' utterly failed. So much for the community organizer.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your faulty construct.
     
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    Okay.....
     
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    Thanks for your very specific retort.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're welcome apparently you didn't realize the fantasy land of liberal mirrors you were in. :smile:
     
  20. Margot2

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    What military bases? Are you speaking of Tartus? Its only 4 berths.
     
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    So Putin didn't invade Crimera? What a relief.
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    I understood the context you meant; not whether he played chess or not.

    That does put him a step above.
     
  23. ellesdee

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    You'd rather just call it a port? Okay... and now Khmeimim air base, too, made permanent last October.

    You don't think Russia's interest in supporting Bashar al-Assad is because of Tartus, at least? The port is a very strategic location for Russian naval maintenance.
     
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    Trump is an American real estate mogul. He's spent his entire career manipulating people...
     

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