A 12-year-old killed herself on live video. Facebook won’t take it down

The video is protected under the first amendment and it should be allowed to stay up so that society cannot sweep things under the rug, though it has been mostly deleted by the business owners who own and operate those sites such as facebook and youtube.

The family appeared to have economic problems from the videos allowed to be posted on youtube, hopefully this will be fixed by the incoming administration.

A society which does not protect liberty does not deserve liberty.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article126167484.html#storylin k=cpy

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I saw the actual video.

Its not something that needs to be made readily available just to satisfy some sort of "1st amendment" argument.

 

I've seen this video, watched the majority of it in it's entirety. It's horrifying. It's plastered all over the web, bestgore.com, etc. This is a horrible tragedy. A month or so ago, I saw a Thai man shoot himself with a revolver over unresolved gambling debts on Facebook live.

I get freedom of expression, but Parents have a right to raise their children how they see fit; this undermines that. Giving a social platform for this type of behavior is dangerous.

RIP. I am sad that the scum that molested her has no hell in the afterlife to rot in.

 

this is quite common and is generally treated as 'out of sight out of mind'

the intent of the first amendment was so that the people can speak out against tyranny, and this qualifies as speech against tyranny because it shows the result of those who are in power or control over the people.

 

Very sad - I haven't seen the video and have no intentions of doing so.
BUT......... refusing to take down the video makes me wonder. Is Facebook honestly interested in their vague First Amendment argument or are they more interested in the revenue the video is generating?

I remember when a movie like this was a sick fantasy of the future: Thanks to Facebook, it looks like the future has arrived - (and the year was 2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ceegnWSENQ



PS: close your eyes, go back in your mind.............go back 30 years. If someone back then had told you that people would be killing themselves live on the TV and nobody would stop it, you would have never believed it.

 

Right...

...except tyranny is government oppression.

I don't see the connection between that and what happened to this girl.

And certainly any point can be made without people having to see somebody methodically carrying out their own suicide.

I'm not saying we should launch into some massive effort to scrub the video from existence, not that such a thing is even possible on the internet, but a large company like Facebook doesn't need to be the host for such material - its not their function.

 

I'd rather see Bin Laden's carcass.

 

there is a market for people who enjoy watching this, but the benefit that comes with eliciting emotional reactions of the people in power from guilt is a far greater benefit to society.

when they see how the people are oppressed in plain view, they may become more merciful and create better ways for them to pursue happiness.

 

the big businesses hold the greatest responsibility for freedom because they have the greatest power.

government tyranny also includes businesses because they pay the government a lot of money for special favors.

 

Same here... I'm not gonna watch it. I think it's left up because of the revenue it may generate, or attention it may bring. Ironic about The Running Man, too. If you go back 30 years, a 12 year old child contemplating suicide was beyond rare. Two years ago, a girl in my son's class (12 at the time) killed herself because she was being bullied by other girls. She was bullied on Facebook by some trashy little girls that thought she thought she was better than them because her family had money. Her problem was never discussed and her parents had no idea she was being bullied. Parent's shouldn't let their kids have Facebook unless they're willing to go through it to make sure things like this aren't happening and to make sure the child is behaving.

 

Why would anyone need to see the video? Just a description of the event is enough to know to what happened. I will not look at it. The excuse of first amendment issues is crap.

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A friend's daughter (about 11 years old) wanted to start using Facebook. He refused unless she added him as a friend with full access to her posts. The compromise was that he was not to use his real name so is using a cartoon character. Unfortunately, even though she is now old enough to look after herself, he is stuck with that name which does generate unforeseen problems for himself (he cannot be bothered to start a new account under his real name). Facebook can be very dangerous especially to young children.

 

The SJW's are tough to pin down. Here you have a graphic suicide and I guess they are honoring the the perpetrators desire to share it publicly. Judging from the pull-quote, you view this favorably.

Syracuse University Wants You to Report "Bias Crimes" Such as Using the Color Blue for Boys and Pink for Girls
If you see something, say something. About gender terrorism, I mean.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443781/syracuse-university-color-coded-bathrooms-bias-reports

Thoughts?

 

It happened years ago. a Japanese politician was murdered on live TV during a speech. A U.S. businessman/politician under pressure and suspicion pulled a gun out of a paper bag and shot himself on TV.

 

Youth suicide rates have not risen drastically in 30 years. In 1990, the rate for the 5-14 age group was .8 per 100,000. In 2010, it was .7.

Edit: source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Health Statistics, http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html

 

I doubt it. I can remember being a teenager over 30 years ago, and I knew people who had contemplated suicide. Talking about it was rare, and I doubt many adults knew.

Kids haven't changed much. Kids can be mean, and they also want to deal with things themselves without telling their parents.

That said, I agree teenaged girls and facebook is a bad idea. Teenaged boys just use facebook to exchange funny videos and play games.

 

It's actually quite good. People can decide for themselves if they want to watch the video, but when you ask the government to decide for you, then they will start deciding what other videos you can't watch.

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I agree. Facebook is one of those things that is both dangerous and stupid. I don't want up to the minute reports on what people are having for breakfast, where they are, or what they are doing, but if other people want to waste their time and rot their brains on Facebook, then that's their problem. With technology, we have succeeded in perfecting stupid and worthless entertainment.

 

Her Parent(s) / Guardian(s) should be held criminally liable.

There is a reason Minors are Minors
and require adult supervision under the law.

From horrific incidents to suicides online, a criminal investigation of the responsible adult
with liability is appropriate.


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Tyranny is oppression. What we have is corporate tyranny . Oligachy . As for the first amendment , fox news fought for the right to lie under the first amendment. So if they can lie why can't we watch suicides ? What is the difference ?We can watch what ever we want ,that's America. They show bank robbers doing crime . Car chases, I have seen people getting shot for real on tv many times.

 

Does Facebook realize they're encouraging copycats? Some little kids in a bad emotional state will see the video and think to themselves that they can finally get the attention and sympathy they yearn for. They will see death as a relief from their problems. Young kids just don't understand that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

 

I wish girls in cases like this would kill the perp instead of themselves.

So sad. If the parents didn't do all they could, I hope they rot in hell.

 

Facecrook is using draconian censorship to silence news/reporters critical of the USG. They don't care about the first amendment- they do care about millions of people searching their site looking for death videos. Good for site traffic. Good for the bottom line.

Anyhow, I deleted my facebook a couple years ago after learning about their data mining. I have no idea why anyone uses that site after all we've learned.

 

Where are the parents? I know you can't stop all of the bad things in life, but giving any child unrestricted access to the internet, terrible idea.

 

So in fact, this child was actually 'killed' by her parents. Plenty of kids survive social media (not that I'm a fan, mind), all it takes is a solid kid. And a solid kid is made solid by parents.

 

It's a platform and tool for narcissists. Still, it doesn't kill kids.

 

I agree 100%. When minors suicide, parents or guardians should be charged. Maybe it will give young people pause, before breeding without regard for the enormous responsibility of parenthood.

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It's not Facebook's responsibility though, it's their parents' responsibility.

Why do we expect the world to do our parenting for us?