The Alt Right View: Ideology

The Alt Right View: Ideology

I have been asked by multiple people what exactly the ideology of the alt-right is? The short answer is pragmatic nationalism. The alt-right does not really hold a set of conservative or liberal views on any one subject. The primary concern is that the policies chosen benefit America first. This means that on some issues we can side with the left and on others with the right.

This is actually a lot more complex than it sounds. There are some groups who believe more free trade is the solution to everything so no matter what the problem they go with that even if it no longer works. There are some groups that believe a more aggressive foreign policy is the answer even if it is not a good idea for that particular case. There are some groups who believe that welcome every culture to the United States is the answer despite Islam proving to be incompatible with the west. Pragmatic Nationalism cannot just pick a default answer. It has to look at the circumstances surrounding each decision and pick the best course. I will give some examples to show how the alt-right position can change depending on circumstances.

Free Trade

There was a point in time where World War 2 just ended. Europe being one of the major battlegrounds of the war lost much of its industrial capacity. Japan and China had the same problem as China was a battleground and under occupation for much of the war and Japan, while not invaded, had most of its factories bombed or nuked. Africa and the Middle east were chugging along hopelessly as usual. In that situation free trade was great! Who wouldn't want unlimited access to all the market places in the world with no competition? We could produce as much as we wanted and everything would have to be made in America and sold elsewhere as there was nowhere else to produce it.

Fast forward to modern times. Almost every country has the capability to produce basic products. Only a few very specialized things can only be manufactured in America. Other countries can and have taken business from the US by attracting companies with lower wages and low to no taxes. At this point with so much more competition, free trade becomes less desirable and protectionist measures should be put in place.

Immigration

The statue of liberty says that you should throw anyone you don't want in your country to the US and we will take them. It may sound strange but there was a point in time where we would have supported this approach. The US has just conquered half a continent from the Indians and the Mexicans. We had a lot of empty land in our hands and not enough people. to fill it. Using the subjugated populations for the areas would just have been asking for rebellions and in any case there was not enough Indians left alive to effectively do this. Making babies would have taken to long as we would have to wait a couple of generations before we could integrate the fallow lands into our economy. Economically each immigrant did not have a safety net surrounding them. No healthcare, food stamps, or any other benefits so there was little additional cost to welcoming them.

We have to compare that to our situation today. According to the latest statistics we have around 40% of the population not working. We have a housing crisis in several cities where the lower economic classes who run the service sector unable to afford to live in the cities they work in. We have advances in tactics and weaponry which means that one single terrorist is more dangerous than a regiment of troops when our immigration policies were different. We also have different social services in place where a single person costs more to maintain. Simply put we just do not have the same need for the same amount of people than we did when we asked to be the worlds dumping ground.

I hope these two examples show how pragmatic nationalism works and how an idea which may have worked in one generation may not work in another.

 

You are a fascist, go tout your white supremacy somewhere else and NEVER associate yourself with my true conservative AMERICAN friends.

 

I just pointed out why we were not strictly conservative or liberal.

 

Exactly, you are a fascist. We fought a world war fighting you people.

 

this is precisely the sort of reply we can expect from the drones of modern liberalism. they are incapable of differentiating between the sort of nationalism that simply works toward the best interests of the country, the goal of any rational government, and rabid white supremacist ultra-nationalism. blinded by a mindless idealism, the pragmatic solutions to our problems look like extremism to them and they fight the practical in favor of some pie in the sky fantasy.

 

but why? I pointed out that we would support mass immigration when the country needed it.

If ever we conquered canada and need to fill up that space we would support mass immigration again. Not now when there is no need.

 

This is what the "alt right" is, and what it represents. Do NOT be fooled by minced words.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-pepe-the-frog-inauguration-day-a7541461.html

 

You could always point out whats wrong with our ideology as I outlined.

 

Outright racism.

 

"Alt Right" was a recently made up word. It doesn't have a real definition. Lefties just thought it sounded dark and they started labeling people who had commonsense and loved their country as "Alt Right". We shouldn't give it any credence.

 

If trade deals and selective immigration makes us racists, then that means Canada and Australia, for two easy examples, are Reich Countries.

 

The term 'alt-right' was created by the left in order to lump all Trump supporters with the KKK. It is a made-up term...don't fall for it.

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You beat me to it...

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?utm_term=.207712558bf9

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The term "alt right" was coined by Nazi Richard Spencer. it was not a term coined by the left.

 

OK I stand corrected on who coined the term however, the left is still using the term to create the false construct that Trump supporters agree with White Nationalism. (skinheads, KKK, etc.)

 

You're also right here to an extent. Liberals do this at their peril, because of course not ALL Trump voters are alt right, the ones who SAY they are, are the dangerous ones. Conservative and Liberal DIED together on the sandy beaches of Normandy FIGHTING these alt right nazi monsters. Join me in denouncing them brother?

 

I'm not sure what that has to do with Canada and Australia having stricter immigration requirements than even what Trump is planning, nor how it makes us racists.

As an aside, wow, this guy drew an audience of an entire 300 people.

 

Richard Spencer, white supremacist Nazi, refers to him and his movement as alt right. If you are NOT with him, you are NOT alt right. So, are you, or are you not alt right?

 

Yes, I join you in denouncing white supremacy fools. The fact that they voted for Trump does not mean that everyone who voted for him is in league with them in some kind of 'alt-right' movement.

 

Of course not, and anyone I see on the "liberal" side saying all Trump voters are racists need to be called out and shamed. I believe I've done that here, I do on my private FB all the time.

The alt right is evil, and needs to be stopped. They are hiding among the Trump crowd though, and need to be weeded out.

 

No one else brought up Spencer, that was you.

 

OMG
Where to begin ? Americans conquered indians and Mexicans. Wow. Holy hand grenade ! Nothing could be further from the truth .
40% of the population is not working . Does that include the people who are raising our next generation ? Are you counting millions of self employed Americans ? How about the millions of millionaires who don't work ? The disabled ? The millions of drug dealers?
You should know that America is the land of opportunity . We are not a statistic.
Free trade is a term for unfettered capitalism . It does not exist. Corporations hate capitalism. All things are never equal.
You are not an alt right . Alt right is anti women's rights. That's why the March. Alt right is Breitbart claiming that planned Parenthood sells baby parts . Planned Parenthood is health care for poor and middle class women. It's about health of women.
Alt right is facism . It's bullies it's narrow minded hate filled liers using propaganda techniques to create gang mentality . Blaming Muslims and Mexicans is absurd. It's is historically evil and vile. It is the monsters on maple street.

I hope you are a libertarian who hasn't thought this thing through.

 

Spencer IS the alt right. Are you the alt right as well, or aren't you?

 

As should the alt-left hiding among the Democrat ranks.