Trump To Chicago - Fix Crime Or I Will Send In Feds

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Jeannette, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. Ddyad

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    Drugs are virtually legal. Casual users - the demand - is encouraged. Only the dealers are punished, which has no impact on the availability of drugs. I assume that you know that the "War On Drugs" could be won very easily and fast. There is no political will to do that. Drug cartels and the criminal justice system are symbiotic industries.
     
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    ............ AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH~!~~!!~!

    wtf, over, lol, smh.
     
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    Poor workers usually obey and support the law. The idle, as both Lenin and St. Paul pointed out, are a big problem.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Although Christianity is the superior religion, above all others, one must not be too narrowly focused and look at the global situation.

    One young liberal relative I know is just constantly trashing White people and the USA. They then brag about how Norway doesn't execute people and puts criminals in nice cells and they have low crime. They fail to connect the dots about the nation's culture and values and that it has been almost exclusively White until lately.

    Singapore has low crime as well for such a crowded urban place. They've had great success with canes and long drop hanging. Perhaps their morality is not the same as in Norway or rural America---but they prove that corporal and capital punishment are effective methods of crime control.

    However, a crowded urban island of Asians is never going to behave the same way as a crowded island of Blacks (like Haiti).
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Haiti sold it's soul to gain its freedom from France, and it's been downhill ever since then. Voodoo and any kind of satanism hardens the heart so that the whole atmosphere becomes immersed in hatred and evil. I figured that one out when reading about a former black slave from the Caribbean who couldn't understand why the English people who were so lovely and kind in Britain, were so cruel in the Caribbean.

    As Christians the plantation owners could not have slaves, so they rationalized it by assuming the blacks were not fully human. If they edified them to Christianity and away from the occult, that would mean they were human ...so they didn't. Of course when the atmosphere is evil and hatred reigns, the plantations owners will suffer as well. ..and I'm sure they did. Anyway this is just my opinion.
     
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    Meh...
     
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    Yes. I agree. It is hilarious to see people try to compare casualties of military personnel to murders of civilians.
     
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    Except deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are significantly higher than Chicago when you count civilian death.

    If you are only going to limit your false comparison to military deaths, then you should only be comparing with police deaths in Chicago.
     
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    And how many years would you want the military to occupy those neighborhoods? Do you think that might create more anger, and would that anger then be directed at the troops? Wouldn't the problem be greatly exacerbated when the troops shoot and kill one, or more, people? It would only be a matter of time.

    Do you think president POS has a clue about what he's doing half the time? Or, should the Twit stick to sending tweets?
     
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    Don't confuse the boot-licking, @ss-kissing, Trump lemmings with facts.
     
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    Trump can have the federal cops courts take over chicago cases, handing out MUCH more severe sentences and they will serve their time in Federal prisons and corrupt city officials can go to prison, too. He can make things change very swiftly in Chicago, if he so chooses, and I mean in weeks, not months. He can do away with the sanctuary city bs, too. Just deny Chicago any federal funding until they do so. Chicago municipal bonds will be worthless in less than a month without federal funding backing them up.
     
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    If Trump tries to impose Martial Law in Chicago, the People have the right to resist by any means neccessary.
     
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    says who? Martial law is perfectly legal in the Constitution. let the pos's there try to resist it and see what happens! you liberals are all talk and no action.
     
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    So you are big gov't dictatorship type of person. Don't like something in the country, send in the military.
    I don't want to live in such a country. If that's the type of country you like, perhaps Russia is more your cup of tea.
    How communist this is.

    Edit: Actually, N Korea is a better fit.
     
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    Well it's the Republicans fault because they won't give the Democrats more money. If only they were richer off the taxpayer dollar all the problems they created would magically go away.
     
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    FBI, DEA, ATF and state municipalities have stepped up and worked together to get some of these (*)(*)(*)(*)bags off the streets and in federal prison. They did a similar sweep in the Bronx last year and it worked beautifully. They took hundreds in one day after months long investigations.

    We are talking about AMERICAN LIVES. They are simply saying that more AMERICANS are dying in the streets of Chicago then AMERICAN soldiers we are sending to fight in our wars overseas. Get in now?

    Not true. See my above response to Alek.
     
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    Well, we need to get these cops to do their jobs. Since a couple of high-profile incidents of cops shooting black suspects, the cops have decided to "go fetal" and not do their jobs. There are also other causes, such as the end result of eliminating the major gangs like the Black Disciples has caused dozens of smaller gangs to take their places and fight turf wars.
     
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    the problem with that kind of thinking is that it only counts American lives lost as having value. The problem in Iraq isn't just that Americans died (unnecessarily because George W. Stupid started a war over a lie) but that hundreds of thousands of IRAQIS died (unnecessarily because George W. Stupid started a war over a lie).
     
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    Have you ever met people who are in the National Guard? Particularly the Illinois Guard, which is particularly badly funded and most of the officers are there because of political patronage. I couldn't imagine a better way to make a bad situation worse.
     
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    Cops realize they get paid the same for not doing the job to the best of their abilities, and without placing themselves in harms way. The "community" demands cops stop "over policing" high crime neighborhoods, and abandon "profiling", "stop and frisk". OK. Enjoy.
     
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    To send some of these self declared far righty militias maybe who wear swastika tattoos under their cloth maybe?

    Sorry ... only kidding and bad joke, I know! :cool:
     
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    Guy, we lock up m ore people than any other country on earth. We are one of the few countries in the world that still executes people for being too poor to afford a good lawyer. (Because since you mentioned OJ and the Skakel kid, please note no one ever talked about executing them. They're rich!)

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    Ten years ago, that would be a bad joke... sadly today in the era of Trumpenfuhrer, I'm not so sure.

    Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with federal assistance to the City, but given that Trump is only doing this because Rahm dissed him on his "tiny" crowds, I'm less sure it's a good idea.
     
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    Plenty of threads on the evils of Bush and the Iraqi war. I only cited the US casualties as contrast to Chicagos "urban combat". Let's get back on topic.
     
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    Well, I'd be happy if they just didn't shoot someone 16 times when he's on the ground. Or shoot someone when there are people standing behind them.

    what we really need to do is get rid of the bad apples. Because often, when we find one of these guys who "overpoliced", we find a guy a who had a thick jacket of civilian complaints that no one did anything about. For instance, the No-neck that shot LaQuan McDonald 16 times (15 when he was on the ground and 9 in the back) had 20 complaints against him, including one where the city paid out a half-million dollar injury claim and another where he hurled racial slurs at a suspect.

    And this guy still had a job.
     

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