Trump's heartland voters shrug off global uproar over immigration ban

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To have any credibility, the protestors should have protested Obama. But they didn't do that, so they have ZERO credibility on this issue.

    Trump is mildly humorous. His opposition is a joke.
     
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    I'm waiting for Soros to buy some riots to protest Obama's Muslim ban.

    I believe Obama waiving vetting and visa requirements for Tashfeen Malik because she was Muslim --- despite the fact she had known ties to terrorists --- was the height of stupidity executed by a man who believes that the US is the cause of all problems in the world. Oh, speaking of which, Iran used the $150B and oil revenue Obama let flow to test a ballistic missile designed to launch a nuclear weapon Obama gave them.
     
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    Not at all. The point is when President Trump does it the media goes nuts, when obama did it....crickets.
     
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    I find that dems protesting Trump to be very entertaining. It shows they have no idea why Trump was elected in the first place, and HOW he won against the establishment republicans as well. It's a hoot that will end up with bigger republican landslides in 2018 and 2020.

    Steve
     
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    Sorry, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. The last 8 years of identity politics was the prep.
     
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    I think the author of this op-ed is giving Trump supporters a little too many pats on the back.

    Working and middle class Americans voted for Democrats as well. However, a warning sign is illustrated in this article I think you may be missing. By simply shrugging off these legitimate concerns, that poses risk where risk needs not be posed. The message your article is trying to get across of "calming down" reminds me of what customer service reps say to enraged customers. The Trump base should have been eating these words during the election, take a breath, and think over the issues presented to them, instead of simply seeking political vendetta and packing heat going into the ballot box. The fact the Trump coalition is simply not caring about the issues beneath the surface is terrifying. This article really goes to show a common trait in Trump supporters is putting ego before their country.

    These are quick fixes Trump is putting in place, which is eventually collapse on themselves. Instead of bans, we should be having meetings with Google, Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, all the Silicon Valley behemoths to better create a vetting process. Simply putting a ban out there is addressing the immediate cause, but not the long term cause.
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    Temporary ban while vetting procedures are reviewed. You would think from the hysterical reaction that Trump is putting democrats grandmothers in jail.
     
  8. Balto

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    >>>MOD EDIT Rule 4 Baiting Removed<<<
    The vetting procedures don't need to be reviewed, they need to be ENACTED. Given ISIS' main avenue is social media, this immigration ban is going to do nothing to protect the country. This is more about fulfilling promises, over the safety of our nation. Otherwise, technology behemoths would be playing more of a role in this vetting issue.
     
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    Indeed. Like this idea that there is "global uproar" in response to Trumps decisions. Very funny, to those of us outside America. No one really gives a (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    OP...we don't run America by taking world polls.

    Yes, just a few terrorist based countries are banned. Nothing to do with Muslims. The majority of the other43 Muslim countries are fine. The dems wont buy it. Their only hope is to bring down Trump with lies and sedition.

    The dems are left with defending and promoting terrorist immigration, trying to convince Americans that a man with a penis is a woman, don't build a border wall or even have borders, populating the US with illegal aliens, confiscating guns, killing babies, defying federal law, sedition and treason.

    ...now that is what I call Making America Great Again!
     
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    I was looking for a way to help defeat Sherrod Brown in 2018. After 4 years of silence, he's resurfaced to get himself in the news. Lo and behold, he voted for Obama's Muslim Ban on December 18, 2015. What luck! Once the GOP has a candidate, I'll be right there with the good news. On our way to 60 for the first time in almost forever.
     
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    Well, there is a huge amount of donations coming into progressive organizations. They are going to play this thing until the donations slow drastically.
     
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    I somewhat agree, but this is the ounce of prevention. In fact, there shouldn't really be any major news stories other than why it took so long.
     
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    I guess you missed Comey and Clapper's statements during the Obama admin that it isn't possible to vet people without records (or forged records), such as most Syrian people, et al.

    Steve
     
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    The division was created by Obama. Trump is the effect of this division, not the cause.
     
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    Even if I missed those statements, anyone would know that you can't vet anyone without documentation.
     
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    So you say.
     
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    Have you ever had to go into a working environment that had a terrible problems associated with the culture of the location? I am on my 3rd culture overhaul project. This is as much of a statement about the overarching approach to radical Islamic terrorism as it is an approach to increasing safety. Say what you will, but the previous administration was perceived as weak.
     
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    1) Muslim is not a race.

    2) Good to see how misleading you are and open willingness to lie. OP said "immigration ban", and you say "Muslim Ban". Even though many, MANY other countries with heavy muslim citizens are not ban from coming to America. ALL religions from the countries that support terror are banned, not just muslims, even though its the muslims that are doing the majority of the terrorism.
     
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    Statue of liberty is not America, it was a gift by leftist French and the quote from it was written by Communist filth.
     
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    NO distraction here. For me it was over at the stroke of President Trumps pen. DONE. The only ones making this into a big deal are the paid protestors and anarchists. I'm ready to move onto the next.

    The tap water issue happened well under Obama. What was stopping him from doing something about it before he left office? How about take that 221 Million that he tried to sneak to Palestine and fix the water issue? Nobody batted a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing eye, but when Trump decides to honor his campaign promises first everybody is all of a sudden up in arms about it.
     
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    Like MOST young people today, you have way too much faith in technology to solve our problems. ANYONE can spoof IP#s, or give a nickname instead of a real name, , , , and on and on. If you don't catch them in the act, at BEST is all you have is a computer that COULD be located in a cafe used by hundreds of other people.

    Clapper and Comey know more about vetting people than you do and they say it isn't possible. I take their expertise over yours any day especially when it involves my personal safety.

    Steve
     
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    He would have, but someone might have pointed the First Amendment out to him.

    As for the bigotry of many in his base, that's on open display now, here on this Forum and elsewhere.
     
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    Known as the McCarran-Walter Act, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 allows for the "Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States. The President may, by proclamation, and for such a period as he shall deem necessary, may suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants or impose any restrictions on the entry of aliens he may deem to be appropriate.

    The McCarran-Walter Act also requires that an applicant for immigration must be of good moral character and in agreement with the principles of our Constitution.

    The Quran forbids Muslims to swear allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, technically, ALL Muslims should be refused immigration to our country.

    http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/1952_immi gration _and_nationality_act.html
     
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    Does not follow.

    Well, stop being so open about your bigotry.
     

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