Donald Trump Will Not Release Tax Returns, White House Adviser Says

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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe JFK had any personal business interests. His personal wealth was family wealth. It was passed on from father to son. There's nothing wrong with that, but comparing the financial status of those two presidents is like comparing apples to artichokes.
     
  2. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does JFK get a pass because he inherited 100% of his wealth and Trump worked for most of his?
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, the only reason you want to see Trumps tax return is so he can be excoriated over the tiniest detail. Why would he do that to himself?
     
  4. truth and justice

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    Do you think that his investments in Russia and Taiwan are illegal then?
     
  5. RP12

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    You back up a poll with.... polls.. How about election results have any evidence of this 30+% of independents?
     
  6. StillBlue

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    Actually I have to disagree. Republicans didn't have to scream for them, he filed them voluntarily as a matter of course. Now his long form birth certificate and college records, also private documents, they screamed for even though they had no value in determining his honesty or ethics.
     
  7. Ironrnan

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    Well he certainly knew that when he said he would release them. Why say that then?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Tax returns are private records not public records just like medical records.

    What happened to the right to privacy?
     
  9. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary said she would release transcripts of her Wall St speeches and still hasn't. Trump said he would release his tax returns when Hillary released her speech transcripts.
     
  10. The Prophet

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    What's to refute? That's almost like picking a needle out of a haystack, then questioning the lone needle. The fact is if Americans cared about President Trump's tax returns, he wouldn't have been elected President. 'Nuff said.
     
  11. Curious Yellow

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    I can't believe you guys are letting this one go. There are SO many reasons we should demand transparency. I could give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if he paid his taxes or not. That is not the issue. The issue is CLEARLY where the conflicts of interest may be. Don't you think it's relevant to know where your president's businesses entangle his decision-making? And does it not concern you at least a little bit that he doesn't want this to be public knowledge? FFS set aside your partisanship and look at this from the perspective of precedent. Today it's Trump, but I guarantee you that this worm will turn. You guys are idiots for defending this. Sorry but you are. Anyone in their right mind with any sense of history should be demanding the returns.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    You will find that in his FEC financial disclosure form which he filed when he ran and will have to update every year. What conflict of interest are you thinking you are going to find in his tax return but not in his 90 page financial disclosure form.

    And this is a relatively recent act by presidential candidates done off hand by one not under some new formal requirement. There IS no formal requirement, there is not FEC requirement they have their extensive financial disclosure form. It's a tradition without much basis.

    Of all the person who have filed to run for President and disclose the tax returns have we ever found anything that disqualified anyone? Have we ever found out anything to do with anything the amounted to anything that was not found in the FEC form?
     
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    keep bugging him about taxes and he might just defund the IRS All together LOL.
     
  14. snakestretcher

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    I guess you didn't demand Obama's birth certificate then?
     
  15. Curious Yellow

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    If it's all in the disclosure, then why not release them? I think I'll stand with the ethics and tax experts on this one. They want to see them; therefore so should we. Arguing that this isn't something we should demand to see is essentially giving the room over to at least the potential for rampant cronyism and all the things about the swamp that you claim to despise. This one is really simple. Demand his returns because it IS a good precedent. More transparency is better. Our politicians should have to answer to us. He lied about his intention to release them. That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It does matter.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Birth certificates are public records.
     
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    The FEC finacial disclosures ARE released.

    Which ones?

    Which line on the tax return shows that?
     
  18. truth and justice

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    One line is titled Foreign Investments which will show how much his investments in Russia and Taiwan are
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Already reported on his FEC form.
     
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    After eight years of Obarry! That's quite the exaggeration! You get a chance, slip on the rose colored glasses you'all used to filter Obarry's lies out and let me know if they work with Trump!

    Thanks in advance!
     
  21. truth and justice

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    The FEC is not a balanced account statement
     
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    If your challenging me to be equally harsh to both sides? I accept.
    And you are quite welcome.
    Oh at my age the last thing I own, rose colored glasses.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Why should he?

    If you stand by the tax experts they you stand for not releasing tax returns until they are completed an accept by the IRS IF at all. Other than that I could care less what either of them say.


    Sorry but they are the determiners here are they.

    So I'm still waiting for you to tell me what you expect to find in them you would not find in his financial disclosure. Who knows then maybe I'll change my mind. But if you can't would you consider just giving up on it.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    What you are talking about is not part of his income tax filing and you can get the statement of holding in the FEC filing.

    Again what is it you are hoping to find?
     
  25. truth and justice

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    It is on mine (UK) and your yearly returns have to include all investments (outgoings and incomings) for accounts to balance from one year to the next otherwise audits would be pointless. The FEC does not give balanced accounts and covers all years, and are not cross checked with returns.
     

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