Without a doubt Yemen was the real Benghazi

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  1. ChiefSeattle

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    https://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/j...-was-a-failure?utm_term=.hwZNXwRke#.ppKjrmM3b

    Of course, I won't put this in the same context as Benghazi since our bi-partisan senate committee concluded that we had done our job in Benghazi. However, with the always present right-wing manufactured scandal committee, they spent years trying to frame Clinton about the Benghazi tragedy, but in the end, they failed miserably. Trey Gowdy and Kevin McCarthy got caught trying to frame Clinton, and ever since then the manufactured scandal was never the same until it died.

    But the Yemen attack, that's a different scandal of the "REAL" type. Why? Because Trump and his military lost their cover before the attack, and the militants were waiting for our military with their own ambush. Then, pinned down, our seals ordered an air strike killing one of ours, killing 9 children, and the rest militants.

    In other words, Trump blew our cover, and he was not re-briefed by his intelligence while deciding to attack anyway during dinner, with his son-in-law present. And that is the reason John McCain has said this was a botched, failed operation.

    This is so scandalous on such an obvious level, that it makes the Benghazi manufactured scandal a joke. Trump's Yemen attack obviously leaked out to the enemy, so the tactics and the abrupt decision to go in was just sloppy and irresponsible by Trump.

    Folks, this is what is called a "REAL" Benghazi.

    Can you imagine if this operation had been handled like this with Hillary Clinton as president? The Right would never talk about anything else
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump will not be able to stop leaks that might cause American deaths until he can get all of Obama's people out. The Senate blocking his confirmations to keep Obama people in the loop is the real problem.

    John McCain has spit on every American who ever died in military service to this country, a truly despicable person now.

    The mission was a SUCCESS because the target was destroyed/killed. Casualties happen in military actions. That does not make the mission a failure as McCain claims is always a failure if any American died. Whether George Washington across the Potomac to D-Day to Iwo Jima - McCain claims those all were "failures" due to those Americans who died causing that failure. What a true (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) McCain truly has become from his greed eyed jealous and hatred of Trump.

    The DNC should make LIndsey Graham their party chairman with John McCain their co-chair.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This the attack planned during the Obama admin?
     
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    Delta Force Sergeant SLAMS Lying Media For Blaming Trump Over Death Of A Navy SEAL!

    Donald Trump has been under recent attacks from the liberal media because of the death of the NAVY SEAL Ryan William Owens who was killed in a raid in Yemen against Al Qaeda. Luckily Delta Force Operator, Green Beret and Master Sergeant Dale Comstock, back up Trump.

    “Much of the media has no f****** clue what they’re talking about. I’ve been to over seventy countries in the world as a soldier, security consultant, and civilian. I’ve been to every country in the Middle East. Yemen is one of the most dangerous countries on the planet,” he started.

    “If an American soldier was spotted, people would jump at the chance to kill them and parade their body in front of everyone,” he said.

    “People going after Trump for Yemen do not understand how raids work. I’ve been on several, and sometimes the worst-case scenario is what happens. They don’t have any idea what could have gone wrong, how complex the planning was, and if anyone on the SEAL team made a mistake,” he explained.

    “To blame it on Trump is more than short-sighted. He doesn’t control the forces on the ground. And he has enough respect for our military that he defers to the professionals who he chose to lead the greatest fighting force on the planet,” explained Comstock."

    http://www.nationalinsiderpolitics.c...f-a-navy-seal/

    The OPer isn't really attacking Trump, but rather our military who planned and executed the mission. But, then, generally most Democrats hate the military and overwhelmingly people in the military hate the Democratic Party, which they demonstrate when polled and when voting. If members of the military decided the elections, there would be 92 Republican US Senators and 461 Republicans in the House of Representatives. The Democratic Party would be an irrelevant 3rd party.
     
  5. wolfin

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    The Benghazi has not been found to be an innocent happenstance as some suggest. The attacks were the result, in part by Hillary's poor planning and disregard for impending danger described by the ambassador and others. The administration then lied about the cause.

    The action in Yemen was only one military attack. They don't compare.
     
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    I disagree.. Just because a bunch of nitwits dogged Hillary, I am not going to do the same thing towards Trump.

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    You know there was NO diplomatic mission in Benghazi. You know the Ambassador was only going to be there over night and why.

    You know that Congress refused funding for additional security.

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    You know there was NO diplomatic mission in Benghazi. You know the Ambassador was only going to be there over night and why.

    You know that Congress refused funding for additional security.
     
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    I found this in your link...

    "In a statement later Tuesday, McCain did not use the word failure. Instead, he said that though he would not call the mission a success, many of its objectives were met."

    Guess McCain would not have approved of WWII either.

    “Every military operation has objectives. And while many of the objectives of the recent raid in Yemen were met, I would not describe any operation that results in the loss of American life as a success,” the statement said. “Going forward, I am confident that our military will act on lessons learned from this operation to strengthen our fight against our terrorist enemies.”

    Nobody said Trump blew the cover. That is your opinion only.
     
  10. ChiefSeattle

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    Killing militants was one objective met, not calling the mission a success was not gathering all the necessary intel that killed 9 children and one navy seal unnecessarily because there was failure in not sifting through every ounce of that intel to avoid blowing your cover when they were ambushed. That's what McCain means. It was a total Benghazi screw up by Trump, who didn't dot all his I's or T's.
     
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    They did? You mean the story about it being about a you-tube video when the Bi-partisan senate committee said it quite likely was, but the Right said it was a lie, while the Right has never proved such a story was a lie?

    The action in Yemen was only one military attack. They don't compare.[/QUOTE]
     
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    McCain never said it was a 'total screw up.' Actually by that definition every war we won would also be a 'total screw up'. Look, I get that you dislike (if not hate) Trump but, this stuff is getting old.
     
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    A blundering fool who commits sloppy military intelligence work at the expense of a dead navy seal and children, should be stuff that would be getting even older. But who cares now right? Trump's in there not Clinton, and all these Benghazi screw ups are irrelevant. Lol! And so, this is how Republicans role. It's all relative at the end of the day for Trump fools.
     
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    The media gathers data.
    And how does that change Trumps intelligent screw up by allowing our military to be ambushed?

    One more time, just so you know the question is here. What does that have to do with the price of apples and Trump's screw up?

    And neither does Trump. That's why the operation was a failure. Trump didn't allow for further intelligence input, that may have avoided an ambush.
    Lol! Hm, were you also around during Benghazi to express those same exact sentiments, while everyone from the Right tried to persecute Clinton for what later turned out would be, "she did her job"? You know like, "they don't have any idea what could have gone wrong" with Benghazi either right, except they tried to make out like they did?

    Except for the fact, that our sources said he did not do any of the intelligence as a follow up, and as a result, the Seals were ambushed. How's that for respect?

    http://www.nationalinsiderpolitics.c...f-a-navy-seal/

    Except for one thing; Trump failed his follow up with his intelligence staff, and instead decided to go with the operation while having dinner with the son-in-law. That's what happened. Which has absolutely nothing at all to do with your shallow minded conclusion that I am attacking the military. You are showing weakness now by taking that low road.
     
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    That the fat little drunken kleptocrat war monger with emails and given to falling over, lost. And she didn't just lose, she lost to Trump!
     
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    That was Obama's military since it was planned when Obama was president.
     
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    You added words to what McCain said.

    But he did say this, and you provided me the link.

     
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    No, we lost to Trump, and inherited a real Benghazi scandal of military insubordination and irresponsibility by Trump, not covering all bases that got the Seal killed with this ambush,along with nine children.
     
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    I want to give Trump blame or credit, but not for the planning or execution. Trump simply said yes or no. The Obama mission would have had the same results no matter who the president was. Had it gone during Obama, the same thing would have taken place.

    McCain is not happy but has no plans to investigate. And nobody in the Trump team said a video caused it.

     
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    John McCain, who called the raid a "failure."

    By the way, who needs John McCain? The report was, that Trump did not receive further intelligence, he made the decision to go ahead with this operation during dinner with the son-in-law, and the result, was an ambush. That should tell any idiot all he or she would ever need to know, that this operation was a failure of the highest level. If folks can't see that, they are just too (*)(*)(*)(*) (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    As you would declare for Obama, as I declare for Trump, it was the Seals themselves that asked for airstrikes.
     
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    Well, not that I blame McCain whom Democrats almost never support, for his anger at Trump. McCain has a short fuse.

    Was the planned by the then Obama crew a failure?

    Suppose you explain why the Seals called for the air strike and you blame Trump for the planning?
     
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    Actually you are wrong. About the only time Democrats did not support McCain was when he ran for president. That is one of the reasons Republicans ran McCain, they thought he would garner many Democratic votes.

    What they didn't understand is that even Democrats eat their own. Especially during an election. For instance Obama became the 'magic Negro' in liberal land when he ran against Hillary.
     
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    Wrong again! Obama never mentioned anything about using U.S. Navy Seals on the ground. So no, it wouldn't have ended the same way.
     
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    Obama, like Trump, would not plan these actions nor would they know all of the details. This was a military action planned during the Obama regime. The military wanted to wait for a moonless night. That is why it carried over into the Trump administration.

    BTW: Benghazi was the real Benghazi and directly involved the Secretary of State crooked Hillary and her lies.

    Curious, did Trump blame this on a video?
     

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