Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama didn't ask for help, the Democrats just told us the way it was going to be.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So What? So, I was answering your question.

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    I was responding to the lunkheads that said a refugee had never perpetrated a terrorist attack.
     
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    And why not all 40+ Islamic countries on the globe ... including all close friends and peaceful allies of the US? Why not directly a ban for all Muslims to enter the USA ... including kicking out all still living Muslims in the USA?

    Oh wait ... unfortunately against your constitution, if this paper is something worth to be followed as law aside guaranteeing right of own gun.
     
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    Then they dig a tunnel more, came over the sea, via Canada or as tourist from Australia...
     
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    You have only to look on the profile of the terrorists who did the attacks and woops you have all information I gave here too! of the 16 attackers in Paris are 15 identified and only 3 are in origin Iraqi being since long time in France. the rest still had citizenship and lives in 2nd or more generation in Europe! So what refugee was again involved in this Paris case? Not a single one!

    Of course are inside refugees also potential or actual terrorists and anyone who denies is a troll. Criminals are also inside refugees for sure... Only instead of inciting absurd fears, one sees the facts and knows that there are only a few. Therefore one tries ... and it also quite successful, if also potential for improvement ... the 4 - 5 rotten apples from the 100 apples to screen, instead of reject all 100 apples.
     
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    I don't know why....you've taken a small sample (less than 10%) and then just made a biased assumption about the rest.

    Sounds like a small minded ideologue to me.
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    That is not what you said.
     
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    No, it makes perfect sense.

    You're either not intelligent enough to recognize that fact or you're just being intentionally belligerent here in disputing it because "ze Muslims".

    I know its the latter reason.

    Sorry pal, liberal logic: Nazis never gasssed Americans on American soil therefore Nazis are good people.

    You cannot escape the things you are and the things you stand for.
     
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    I rather refer it first with the constitution, than facing legality hurdles that will put me into shame. ;)
     
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    That is what I meant to say. Deal with it.
     
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    Maybe because the temporary halt never mentions "Muslims". You should educate yourself and not rely on lefty talking points.
     
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    And you just looked at the list and immediately accepted it as fact. That 10% is enough to throw out that list. How about you state which on that list is correct and I'll start from there
     
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    The list is comprised of people from those seven special nations that were prosecuted
    for terrorist activities. That comprises a wide swath of offenses but the common thread is still a support of terrorism itself! Let that soak into your brain.

    I haven't a moment's doubt that these people prosecuted were all given a trial, with a defense lawyer and evidence of charges against them and that they were free to appeal any decision with which they had exception. I say all this to demonstrate how foolish your claims are why there isn't the slightest reason
    why I should not accept the list as fact.

    Your undocumented anecdotal objections, by the way, do not constitute any sort of proof at all and it comes down to who I believe...the judicial system and all it's checks and balances or the opinion of an anonymous online nutter.
     
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    When the EO halts immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries, then offers relief for those who are "a religious minority in his country of nationality", it doesn't need to mention "Muslims" to discriminate against them.
     
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    Undocumented - Google the names! That list contains people who were extradited into the US to face trial and also includes people born in the US. It includes one person who was paid $1.5 Million by the US government and he was also extradited to the US. One so called terrorist in that list was sentenced to 6 months probation for opening a relief centre. You are so delusional and have no clue.
     
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    I asked for more than undocumented anecdotes and this is precisely what you come up with. Good day.
     
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    Got it. You have nothing and no ability to put a name in the search bar
     
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    Glad you admit it doesn't mention Muslims.

    Baby steps.....
     
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    Not what you said. Period.
     
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    I shall educate ... says the correct person for sure. Man, wake up and learn realities and not only believing righty propaganda BS, even this will be uncomfortable for you to do!

    Trump and his followers are so deep nailed on the wall of insanity with this BS of ban ... deeper is hardly possible! Look only the own words of this Comedian in White House with which he reasoned and still reasons the ban on these 7 countries!
    Donald Trump argues that the entry ban is the core of his anti-terrorist struggle to protect the US ... and what is reality?

    F A C T S, undisputable like 1+1=2!

    #1
    It was clearly shown that at ALL terror attacks in the USA since 9/11 only the last attacker came from one of these 7 countries (Somalia), but no other one!

    Conclusion: Aside the in the US born attackers, every other terrorist coming from same countries as the last attackers has no more difficulties to enter the USA after this ban as for example Afghanistan or Pakistan and many more!

    #2
    It was clearly shown that of all done and prevented attacks in Europe only 2 came from Syria and 3 other from Iraq (which still lived since over a decade in France). The rest of over 30 attackers came not form one of these countries, but were citizens of the European countries and families living since 3rd generation in Europe or coming from countries, which are not named on the list!

    Conclusion: Every attacker coming from these other countries as for example Tunisia has no more difficulties to enter the USA as before the ban! And especially in case of Tunisia is the US und Trump doing the same BS as Europeans, because any refugee and person from there who destroyed the papers and is once inside the country, can only with much difficulties sent back, because Tunisia denies that the person is from their country and so denies to take them back!

    #3
    There is no wondering that Iran is on the list, due to the since about 40 years existing hostilities between them and the US. But in case of preventing terror it is ridiculous in many ways! Aside point that it is always more as difficult for any Iranian to enter the US due to these hostilities, who is again the terrorist arm of Iran please? Hezbollah!
    Well ... where is Hezbollah sitting again? In Lebanon and not in Iran and is Lebanon on the list, No! So no higher difficulties for any Hezbollah person to enter the US as before ban AND also for any Iranian spy and sabotage person too, because more as easy to make out of them a Lebanese person, eh?

    #4
    Not always, but mostly are males terrorists, correct? So the ban is against Islamic terror as Trump told by himself, I must wonder why no Christians are allowed to enter, or are they potential Islamic terrorists too?
    And the BS of nonsense told that no one can check that being really Christians is in case of males more as easy to find out! Keyword: circumcision!
    So any male telling to be Christians and having circumcision has to answer some serious questions before entering the USA, because all Muslims have like all Jews the circumcision!

    And what now remains of the justifications of the right and Trump fans, what should make America so much safer with this idiotic ban?

    Only the phrase that the 7 countries are dangerous states where terrorists are and one is preventive prevent their entry! Wow ... and this is no different from a general penalty and suspicion? Very cunning government I must say!

    Oh yes, I forgot another nonsense as reason:

    In Libya, the US Ambassador was killed by terrorists, the first killed US Ambassador since 1979. So, if a US Ambassador is killed in Italy, Spain, Argentina or wherever no citizen of this country is maybe allowed to enter the USA further? :worship:
     
  21. Chris Knight

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    Not sure if you have done much study at university. With Wiki, you will usually find citations that you can reference for credibility. Sometimes there are no cititaions which isn't helpful, however Wiki as a base research source is quite valuable.
     
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    Don't worry about the country of just yet. We should be looking at the religious-political ideology of the terrorist first, then the country of origin. That way we will target the terrorist ideology and all of its sources. So what percentage of terrorist attacks are commited by Muslims in Europe, USA and UK.?
     
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    Depends on whom you call terrorist too aside Islamic terrorists. Shall we take in the still existing and active Neo-Nazi scum and Neo-Communist scum too and their attacks?
     
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    Absolutely, terrorism is terrorism, irrespective of the ideology driven behind it. It would be helpful to find a database of all terrorist activities over the last few decades which are categorised by ideology, origin of the terrorist, place of attack and number of citizens killed.
     
  25. Mandelus

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    OK ... then digits for Germany since 2001:

    16 cases of Islamic terror acts, of what were 4 successful happened, 1 failed due and thanks to stupidity of attackers to activate the detonator correctly
    22 cases of successful serious Neo-Nazi terror attacks in Germany + high number of minor violent cases
    About same number of serious terror attacks from left extreme groups, mostly on police, military and political enemies + high number of minor violent cases.
     

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