The guy just doesn't get it, does he?

Subversion = the undermining of the power and authority of an established system or institution.
Who was President at the time?
So what if no one had ever been prosecuted under the act.

Why did he lie to Pence? This question has been asked so many times on this forum by many on this forum but only response from 'your' group is silence, not even waffle

 

Interactions between Pence and Flynn aren't central to the OP, which implies Trump has committed "treason" and should be "impeached". As far as Flynn misleading Pence, I won't speculate, but I will tell you I occasionally am less than truthful with my own employer.

 

The mistake these folks are making is believing that they're still working for someone who doesn't care about the law. They will soon be made to realize that that simply isn't the case. You think there's panic now, just wait 'til that reality sets in...

I would not want to see the line for that one. That would be awful.

Trump has a new one: you're GOING TO PRISON. Let's see how that one goes over.

 

Humor and Liberals = oil and water.

 

THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! SHRIEK! SHRIEK! LOCK UP YOUR WOMEN AND THE LAST OF YOUR TWINKIES. TRUMP SAID SOMETHING POLITE ABOUT PUTIN. WE'RE DOOMED! BURN DOWN SHERWIN WILLIAMS BECAUSE THEY SELL RED PAINT. KILL ANYONE DRIVING A RED CAR. SHRIEK! SHRIEK! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!

Do you really find it necessary to believe every delusion CNN can come up with? Do you believe that Trump should never talk to Putin? Do you have the recordings of any conversations they may have had?

 

Why would you be less than truthful if you have done nothing wrong?
Why did Trump not tell Pence that the allegations are valid but allowed him to publicly deny the allegations?
Loss of trust between VP and President is serious - one will need to resign

 

So, that is if you believe that Pence didn't know----My opinion is that Pence " did" know & they are just trying to cover for him---I don't believe a word coming out of trump's mouth,Pence's mouth,Spencer's mouth,Kellyanne's mouth, the members of trump's administrations mouths & now any GOP Congressman or GOP Senator--they all have been caught in lies,changed their stories-ect-ect-ect---Oh, what a tangled web they weave----
One only needs to ask themselves----Why is there so much controversy coming out of the White House & questions as to the legitmancy of trump's presidency? The answer is quite simple----He doesn't deserve to be there---and we are finding out almost daily the truth to that statement-----

 

Honestly, you are saying that you believe the elections were not interfered with by Russia and that Flynn resigned because he didn't break the law talking to the Russian ambassador as a private citizen? Come on, nobody can be that naive.

 

ROTFLMAO. By SOMEONE do you mean Trump? The guy who hasn't paid income taxes in 18 YEARS? Someone who has been at odds with the justice department for the last 30+ YEARS? Someone who openly called on Putin to hack his adversaries in the campaign. Someone who will not divest himself of all his business interests so that his presidency can be about America, not about increasing his personal wealth.
Really dude, if you are looking for someone who is law abiding then perhaps you should look far outside Trump's family, friends and associates.

 

Really? One will "need to" resign? What do you cite as a precedent for that assessment? It is also not clear what, or with whom, Obama / Trump were at liberty to discuss per their FBI briefing regarding Flynn. But by all means, read as much as you can into the tiny scraps of information we've you've been enticed with.

 

Are you saying that Trump was not at liberty to inform his VP that the FBI have information that showed Flynn lied? Really?

Do you think the Pence will now be fully supportive of Trump's future decisions after being allowed to publicly deny the allegations which Trump knew were true for the previous few weeks? Pence cannot be that weak or blind follower? He has been humiliated. People will have doubts on any of Pence's future public statements. Very much like comical Ali statement on Iraqi TV saying that the US army are not in Baghdad, while filmed live, US tanks are in the background

 

Pence was not briefed, despite having attended daily presidential briefings in Trumps stead. It seems to be a given that the FBI issued a caveat on disclosure. Why else would Obama remain silent?

 

Trump was informed by the FBI at the end of January that Flynn lied. I have not seen any info saying that the FBI told Obama. Would it be Obama's job to speak out anyway.

 

None of the "leaks" were job requirements. CNN reported the Trump / Obama briefing on Russia / Flynn.

 

I've just seen that the FBI first interviewed Flynn after Trump came into office, hence Obama was not informed. Trump chose not to inform his VP. He could have easily just said to Pence not to give any statement but chose to take a chance in the hope that no one leaked the lies of Flynn.

 

Until the Trump stores classified material in his basement on a hackable mail server connected to the internet and is let off the hook after a meeting between the AG and Trumps wife, then no charges are filed......I really don't care what he does, as long as he appoints conservatives to the SCOTUS for the empty seat and any soon to be empty seats I'm good.

 

Trump is a joke.
He spent the campaign spreading wikileak rumors and now he whines because his crap is being leaked.
What a maroon.

 

LMAO...No, he just sends it all directly to the Kremlin.

 

He shouldn't whine, he should simply do what Obama did when it comes to leaks:

If Donald J. Trump decides as president to throw a whistle-blower in jail for trying to talk to a reporter, or gets the F.B.I. to spy on a journalist, he will have one man to thank for bequeathing him such expansive power: Barack Obama.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/...ld-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html

It will take Trump time, but I expect him to suppress the media almost as well as Obama did...

 

Such hyperbole lolol

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It IS filled with liberals. And they are radical.

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You are very emotional. Funny how the emotional make such radical, outrageous claims lolol

 

It's okay,
his EO against immigration did not even made a dent to create a constitutional crisis,
the foundation of the laws established by the forefathers are quite strong and withstanding firmly.
Later on the laws will depose him if he continue opposing it.

 

LOL...calling anyone "emotional" is quite hypocritical, considering you're the one who bought Trump's BS. A conman will always be a conman.

 

I bought nothing. I see him as better than any liberal however. Liberals are far to emotional and lack any objective thinking.

 

I'm just curious: do you have any actual statutes that you think Trump has failed to abide by? Let's just take the drivel you're trying to push one by one.

• Trump hasn't paid taxes in 18 years. Is that against the law? If so, please indicate why.
• Trump is at odds with the justice department? When you operate at the level that Donald Trump operates at, there will be problems. I suppose now you can add the 9th Circuit Court to the list of people that Trump has problems with.
• Trump called on Putin to hack his adversaries in the campaign? You need to go back an look at what Trump said, because he wasn't calling for new hacks, he asked the Russian hackers to look if they had any of Hillary Clinton's emails lying around, the emails that she conveniently wiped from the public record, in defiance of FOIA.
• Trump will not divest himself of all his business interests? No, he won't. He is not required to. And anyone with the least bit of clear thinking understands that it would be impossible for Trump to divest himself of all interests to a business which carries his name. But once again, it is not required of him.

Really dude, if you're going to say somebody is not abiding by the laws, it's useful to supply an example or two showing where that's happening. So far, you haven't shown anything other than that you're disappointed that he won the election. Sorry for your discomfort with those results...

 

So far as President Trump and the snivelling incompetent Establishment are concerned, it exemplifies the 'fox in the hen house' analogy. They're all flapping around and running scared!!

As he said in the press conference yesterday - 'I see things going on that the public doesn't see. I'm there, and I know!' Yee-ha, go, Don, go!!