Trump denys directing Flynn to talk about sanctions

But ha, " the leaks are absolutely real". "The news is fake". Lol!

 

That's the picture the mainstream media has painted. Not to mention the picture where he is a Hitlerish, maniacal, moronic, incompetent, clueless, lying, immature, buffoon, who hates women, blacks, Jews, Muslims, Mexicans and assorted others.

 

Well the mainstream media may be responsible for some things things...but surely you realize that the Hitler-like, maniacal, moronic, incompetent, clueless, lying, immature buffoon who hates women, blacks, Jews, Muslims, Mexicans and assorted others...are the responsibility of what Donald Trump says and does.

Which brings me neatly to the real problem with the media.

The media REPORT what Donald Trump says and does.

That is probably a bit unfair.

 

Nope. They tell you what to think by cherry picking what fits their agenda. They've been doing it since the sixties. They aren't a free press. They are a press locked into a counter culture mentality of their own construction. They are arrogant, condescending, deceptive, and almost entirely untrustworthy.

 

Oh, this is rich. Flynn the scapegoat. We have to single him out for inordinate hanky-panky, prior to Trump's election, with the Russians. Then we can ignore the actual Trump/Putin collusion prior to the election. That never happened, eh? Give me a break.

 

Oh no, the media manipulates information and report things out of context in order to fit their preconceived ideas. It's dishonest and in some cases outright criminal.

To this day no one apologised war lies about Mexicans for example. He was never after all Mexicans and people like you still try to paint it. Criminals, illegals, rapists, gang members etc...Are you supporting those people? Do you want people like that to hang around your neighborhood?

Trump has many faults but is way above the mainstream media when it comes to the public trust.

 

Trump, and everyone else, knew about the sanctions because Obama publicly announced them on Dec 29.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...s-retaliates-against-russia-over-cyberattacks
Updated at 6:15 p.m.

The White House has announced new actions targeting Russia in response to what U.S. officials say were cyberattacks intended to interfere with the U.S. election.

In a statement Thursday, President Obama said, "All Americans should be alarmed by Russia's actions," referring to hacks of the Democratic National Committee. Obama also cited an "unacceptable level of harassment" of American diplomats by Russian security services and police in Moscow.

The immediate impact of the president's executive order is that 35 Russian diplomats will be expelled from the U.S. and two Russian compounds will be closed.​

Trump, and everyone else, knew about Putin's "delay" because Putin publicly announced it on Friday Dec 30:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...lds-off-retaliation-over-us-hacking-sanctions

In a statement Friday on the Kremlin's web site, Putin referred to the sanctions as a "provocation aimed to further undermine Russian-American relations." But he also said that Moscow would not be ousting American diplomats.​

If I understand you correctly, your above comments make no sense in view of the facts of the timeline.

 

We, the general public, may never know why Flynn lied about discussions of the sanctions. Apparently he also lied to the FBI. Lying to the FBI could be worse for Flynn than any nonsense about the Logan Act.

Apparently the transcripts have Flynn talking about the sanctions.
Publicly, Flynn denied talking about the sanctions.

The FBI was right to be concerned. The FBI was correct to inform the White House so that Trump could decide what to do.

The bottom line is that Trump sent Pence out to say Flynn didn't lie at a time when Trump did know Pence lied.

 

See Post #61 above.

 

The bottom line is that what Flynn did is a common practice. Nothing illegal. The only issue was that he allegedly misled the vice-president. That's about it. Media frenzy over nothing.

This was much bigger deal and was treated with a laughter.

When President Obama’s National Security Advisor Lied, The Media Laughed

It’s somewhat ironic that this email was disclosed the same day the anti-Trump universe was spinning into the stratosphere over Michael Flynn’s resignation as President Trump’s national security advisor.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/17...curity-advisor-deceived-people-media-laughed/

Susan Rice’s Audacity of Trope

But of course nothing matches the audacity of trope by Obama’s National Security Advisor Susan Rice on September 16, 2012. Rice went on several Sunday shows to peddle a story she knew was completely phony, one that was already quickly unraveling even as most in the media and administration tried to keep it intact.

You can read most of her comments here, but Rice repeats the line that Benghazi attack was not premediated and was connected to the demonstrations in Cairo over the video (a document obtained by Judicial Watch last year shows Hillary Clinton met with Rice a few days before her television appearances). Which presidential administration is fact-challenged, again?

In a press gaggle on Air Force One the next day, guess how many times Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest was asked about Rice’s comments? Ten? Five? One? Not once. Let me repeat that. The day after Obama’s national security advisor was on five news programs to blame a terrorist attack on a YouTube video, not one reporter asked the White House about it. I actually had to re-read the transcripts several times, even checking the date over and over, to make sure this was accurate. Her name did not even come up...


Double standards? Multiple double standards.

 

During the primaries, I watched all the Repuplican debates and many Trump interviews and even listened to broadcasts of Trump speaking at his rallies.

Trump denigrated McCain, and by extension, all POWs. It wasn't cherry picked media coverage - it was Trumps own words.

During the 12 or so months from then until now I have heard Trump say derogatory things about many different people and many different groups of people. It wasn't cherry picked media coverage - it was Trumps own words.

I have also heard Trump brag about himself, how wonderful he is, how he loves everyone and how everyone will love him. It wasn't cherry picked media coverage - it was Trumps own words.

I have also heard Trump lie about many things to prop up his own image of himself. Just one example, taken from his press conference yesterday; he repeated the lie about how he had gotten more electoral votes than most other Presidents. It wasn't cherry picked media coverage - it was Trumps own words. The media broadcast the entire press conference, they didn't cherry pick. CNN's website posted the entire text of the press conference, they didn't cherry pick.

 

A big issue may be that Flynn lied to the FBI
The big issue is that Trump lied to his own Vice-President.

 

The Democratic party and the news supporting it are embarrassing themselves. Regular news media will go the way of the dinasaur and it is because of this partisanship being shown. Half the country thinks its literally a joke and another 25% doesnt care.

 

Got a link or two?

 

The are the media...another institution vital to a democracy that the right wing nut cases are attempting to destroy.

We'll see if you are successful.

Ronald Reagan managed to get the nation to hate being governed.

Now Donald Trump is setting out to destroy confidence in the press.

And the sheep that follow those kinds of people are lapping it up.

Too bad that!

 

Donald Trump is an abomination as a leader...and as a president.

The press...and other components of the media...are vital to a democracy...and are doing their job as best they can.

Destroy it, if you can. The cost will be enormous.

 

We'll, I happen to believe Trump and Flynn knew what was going on before the Obama administration. Gosh, I wonder what would make me believe that; http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN14X1YX? So much for the timeline, right?

 

I suspect, with great confidence it has everything to do with the timeline and Flynn's five phone calls during that small window of opportunity Flynn had; http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN14X1YX

" Nothing odd about the phone calls" they said. Yea right! Only five phone calls right after the sanctions were announced coming from the Trump team. Lol! Someone would have to be strung out on drugs not to know what those phone calls were about.

 

Trump, Pence and Flynn have managed to muddy and confuse the issue while they scream fake news. This is a tactic.. It works and Trump will use it over and over again.

Nobody can sort out the lies and Trump gets to play the victim.

 

I don't go to every link that anyone posts and try to figure out what they are talking about.

What is in your linked article that confirms a timeline or whatthehellever you are trying to make a case for?

 

Donald Trump is a democratically elected president of the USA. You seem to be forgetting that. He won fair and square. I don't think Trump wants to destroy the media. He just wants them to show some objectivity and ease on relentless anti-Trump propaganda. They aren't informing American public, they've turned into a propaganda machine for the deep state.

 

I'm not trying to make a case for the timeline, you were. I was simply pointing out from the link that there was more than adequate time for the fake president and his team to collude with Putin about the sanctions Obama imposed. This is when the phone calls happened. On the very same day, December 29th, 2016, when Flynn made five calls. So no, the chances for all of us knowing at the same time are slim to none.

 

Between outright lies, exaggerations, half truths and ignorance Trumps spreads confusion every time he opens his mouth.. Then he screams "fake news" and plays the victim.. Get used to it..

 

No he didn't He stole the election through voter suppression. This has already been proven.

No, he wants them to keep their mouths shut so he doesn't have to answer questions he can't answer.

Proof of this with links please?

 

I am NOT forgetting anything.

Donald Trump WON...FAIR AND SQUARE.

He is the president...unfortunately.

If you mean what you just said...perhaps it would have been better to have ended sentence about six words earlier.

The LAST thing in the world he wants the media to be...is objective.

The problem Donald Trump (and his supporters) has with the media...is that they ARE informing the American public. What you guys want is for them to distort the news.

I doubt that will happen.