1st Amendment the Enemy of American People

This is what Trump has effectively said. By attacking the free press for doing their job, he is attacking the 1st Amendment. McCain said this is how dictators get started. I've been saying that since my first day here. McCain is 100% correct.

Donald Trump has now proven himself to be THE greatest threat to the Constitution and the American people that we have ever seen. He is a greater threat than was Hitler, or Stalin, or the Japanese during WWII, or even ten-thousand Soviet nuclear warheads. Trump is a thousand times the threat of any terrorist.

Trump is the enemy within. He is a malignancy that is killing America.

America is at great risk. The world is at risk. This threat to the world MUST be removed from power. And everyone in the world knows it except for about 40% of this once great nation. 60 million people are holding the entire world hostage with this madman and they have to be stopped.

 

What is more concerning is how many have forgotten that the "fourth estate" has a role in government. To quote the late great Don Chip (Aus Politician) it is there "To keep the bastards honest". this means it SHOULD be critical of government and in particular leaders of government. It should be looking for government failings and informing people of when and where they are so we can use our votes wisely

 

And NOT make up facts NOR slant the truth.

 

If they have "made up facts" then you are free to call them on it

The media will listen when people complain unlike blogs and tweets which simply spread disinformation

 

Blah, blah, blah.

Trump criticized 5 international corporate public relations divisions and nothing else. Just because you worship mega rich international corporations but Trump and his supporters don't doesn't mean the end of the world. But you can sob and rant for your global super rich gods if you want.

 

What good is a "free" press when they consistently lie?

 

I didn't see any censorship. Did you?

Your hysteria, along with many others, is pushing the democratic party and their collective minds off a cliff.

The battle for the far left back to relevancy will be arduous

 

Trump calling a spade a spade is his exercise of his 1st Amendment right. Looks like leftists are the ones who hate the 1st amendment and constantly try to force people disagree with to shut up. This thread is case in point of course.

 

Let us know when he targets a reporter with a DOJ investigation -- like Obama did to James Rosen. Tell us if he sends the IRS to audit and otherwise harass people with opposing views ,,, and if his IRS slow walks applications to attract the resources that enable free speech. When he comes close to the fascist policies of The Obama, Ruler of the Banana Republic of Obamaland he will have earned criticism. Calling our news media that has aligned with the extreme leftists who operate on the fringes of humanity is not threatening free speech the way The Obama did.

 

Trump effectively did none of what you claim. The press has the right to report news, they are not immune to criticism, just because whiny liberals and over the hill terrorist loving scumbags like McCain can't figure it out, doesn't make it less true. You folks are so funny with your lame attempts to categorize criticism as a violation of Constitutional rights. Liberals are pathetic...

 

The press is like an abusive husband who uses the fact that he's married as an excuse to sexually assault and rape his wife.

Excuse me sir, you are raping the minds of your countrymen and women.

Please stop, or we will shut you down.

 

I have to assume that you are absolutely saying to restore democracy and save our republic your are advocating the use of peaceful legal men's?

 

With the freedom of the press and the freedom of speech comes responsibility. You cannot shout fire falsely in a crowded theater and the Press is there to speak truth to power which busts out human corruption as well as giving the factual information that a citizen of a constitutional republic needs to know. If the Press becomes corrupted, involves itself by being utterly biased, acting as an arm of one faction, and becomes yellow journalism while declaring otherwise, as they hock propaganda, indeed it is an abuse of the first amendment and is an enemy of the people.

It would be better if MSM ran a disclaimer citing they are not objective, but biased and indulge in journalism. So not as to be guilty of intentionally trying to use the Press to manufacture consent that they want people to have. Just be upfront with what they are doing in MSM. And stop acting like serious journalists who value honesty and integrity, when their political bias will not allow it. Then they would no longer be an enemy, for the deception is gone.

 

You should understand that in the sense that you used it in the phrase "attacking the free press for doing their job", the word attacking is only metaphorical, and merely means criticizing or possibly insulting.

Significantly, criticism and insults are protected under the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

The fact is that at no point has Trump attacked the First Amendment, nor abridged freedom of speech nor of the press.

At no point has the FCC shut down broadcasters, nor has anyone been jailed, nor killed, nor beaten, nor even sued for printing or broadcasting "fake news", nor for insisting that their fake news was actually "real news".

In fact, people Trump accuses of writing lies are still allowed into the White House press briefing room, and are still called on when it is their turn to ask a question.

Criticizing the free press is not an attack on the First Amendment, but rather a de facto support of the First Amendment by using it as it was originally designed to be used.

The way the First Amendment works is we all are free to say (and print and broadcast) things that other people disagree with, don't like, or feel offended by, and we all are then equally free to respond by telling the people who said things we dislike that they are wrong, stupid, liars, or morally deficient.

In fact, we are all free to tell each other to shut the F*** up, and equally free to continue to say or print or broadcast what we want after being told to shut the F*** up.

Trump's press conference was, in fact the perfect example of the First Amendment in action. Trump said what he wanted to say to people who are allowed to say and print and broadcast what they want in response to what he said about what they said.

The president did not silence people he disagrees with, but rather called on them to ask him questions, and then said what he wanted to in response to their questions and statements. They were then completely free to broadcast whatever they wanted to about what Trump said at the press conference.

Your hyperbole, as irrational and unsupported as it is, demonstrates that the First Amendment is not being violated, and moreover, that you are obviously not at all afraid that it will be.

Hitler, Stalin, Marcos, Peron, etc. would have had you arrested, "disappeared", or publically killed for posting your comments.

Certainly, Mussolini would have had John McCain handcuffed to a lamp post on a corner, and force fed him castor oil so he could say it freely while he publically crapped himself.

I agree with McCain that )after they collect the guns or limit gun ownership), dictators limit the press and freedom of speech.

However, Trump is supporting the First Amendment by allowing free speech and engaging in it himself.

So are you by writing your hyperbolic, inaccurate, and paranoid malignancy.

So am I by disagreeing with you.

 

Writing and broadcasting hyperbole and falsehood is not tantamount to rape. The abused wife cannot simply change the channel to stop the rape.

Words are not actions. The press is perfectly free to write whatever they want. We are perfectly free to disagree, ignore them, find alternate sources, and say that they are wasting the advantages of the First Amendment.

 

Keep it up HereWeGoAgain. People like you assure trump will be reelected in 2020. You must be so proud.

 

Its called an analogy. But yes they are raping people's minds.

Most people aren't smart enough to resist propaganda.

 

No he hasn't. The press has a first amendment right to publish lies, and the Trump has a first amendment right to tell them they are liars, right to their faces. When Donald Trump said that the mainstream media is “the enemy of the American People”, he was 100 percent correct.

If our country is going to have a positive future, the propaganda machines of these massive media corporations must be exposed.

It is about time that we had a president that was willing to go to war with the mainstream media, and I greatly applaud President Trump for the stand that he is taking.

 

When it comes to actually reporting the news we're very fortunate with our main stream media that has a high moral standard and integrity when it comes to presenting the facts. Opinion shows can and do slant the news but those are opinions and not reporting of the news.

So when addressing the reporting (not opinion) of the main stream media the AP and Reuters news sources are generally exceptional as are ABC, CBS, CNN, BBC, FOX News, and Al Jazeera for those seeking a broader perspective. News print medial sources like the Washington Post, LA Times and other major newspapers report the news very well although the stories they choose to cover could be selective to some degree.

There are also internet sources but they tend to be political opinion sites like the Huffington Post. Some are better than others but being willing to double check the facts presented is a good idea.

Of course from there it goes downhill rapidly. WND News does cover many political stories but never without an extreme right-wing slant often presenting prejudice in lieu of fact. Of course if we go to the bottom of the barrel we'd encounter Breitbart News and hiding under the barrel would be The Crusader (official newspaper of the KKK).

Where the pure Fake News is most notable is the White House and fictional stories like the Bowling Green Massacre (that wasn't even accurate when Conway claimed she meant terrorists because the two Iraqi refugees weren't terrorists either). Even with yesterday's "what happened in Sweden" was "fake news" because nothing happened in Sweden.

 

Are you saying you don't see the left wing slant to the majority of the news media (I'll acknowledge Fox slants to the right)?
We watch the CBS evening news every night and lately I can hardly stomach watching them. I understand they will slant to the left but it has become ridiculous.

 

Then again the Muslim Travel Ban is a direct attack on the First Amendment.

As Judge Leonie M. Brinkema, a federal district judge in Alexandria, Virginia, opinion concluded the Commonwealth of Virginia “has produced unrebutted evidence” that the order “was not motivated by rational national security concerns” but “religious prejudice” toward Muslims. That being the case it's a clear violation of the protected Freedom of Religion in the First Amendment.

One thing we know about "The Donald" is that if he ever complies with the US Constitution it's by accident and not intent.

 

The funny thing here is that it was the media that created this monster, and hysterically continue to feed it. Trump would probably be a flaming liberal if the media was complicit. However, not bright and blinded by rage, they continue to throw gas on the fire and scratch their collective heads trying to figure out why the fire burns.

That goes for the brainwashed left as well.

Citation: The OP.

 

And yet we issue them licenses to wield automobiles on public highways, and allow them to reproduce...

I know it is called an analogy, but in order to actually be an analogy, (or at least an apt one) there must a reasonable similarity in the relationships.

• Where in a rape is the analog of changing the channel?
• Where in a rape is the analog of the victim applying logic and alternate sources?
• Where in a media broadcast is the analog of pinning down a rape victim?
• Where in a printed column is the analog of forcing apart the legs or ripping off the underclothes?

A more apt analogy could be a husband serving his wife garbage for dinner, or possibly stirring some urine into her lemonade. In these analogies, the information/food is bad, but the audience/wife still has the option to consume it or not, and to consume something else.

Much of the problem with both the press and the president is the blatant hyperbole.

You can hardly expect your criticism to be taken seriously if you engage in the same sort of exaggeration and mischaracterization that you are criticizing.

It helps to present yourself as moderate and reasonable when criticizing immoderate nuts for being unreasonable.

 

You can't be serious. Just about all the "news" is actually opinion. The media disseminates info based on their own agenda, how can you not see this?

 

If regardless of whether I am diabetic, I were to stop eating chocolate, caramel, Sprite, and 4 other sorts of sugared soda and candy, yet still consumed sugar from 85% of the other sources of processed sugar, (including Coca Cola, which is one of the most common dietary sources of sucrose) would you say I am trying to eliminate sucrose from my diet?