Trump White House has secret plan to end Russian sanctions by blackmailing Ukraine pr

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    If Trump thought this scheme was good, why fire Flynn?

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    What can Russia offer us?
     
  2. TeaAddict

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    What can Ukraine and the Euro-nazis offer us?
     
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    IF there is a plan and IF it is 'secret' then how does anyone know about it? :roll: Let's play a game...I found the fake news give away in the title...Can you find more....There are a lot of fake news indicators.....Can you see them?
     
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    I gave you a starting point for ascertaining the validity of a news article. Your lose all credibility when you run around screaming news is fake without at least trying to do a little research. Copy and paste... push search...then click into some articles, come back with your proof an article is fake. It's really not that hard.

    The fact you haven't done this is either because you're incompetent or you can't find any evidence the story is fake, means you call it fake because you don't want it to be true.

    Head in the sand like an ostrich.
     
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    No it isn't, the US government, on orders of whichever president was then in office, has "participated" in dozens of coups against foreign leaders, consider Batista, Pinochet, Trujillo or Somoza, the Shah in Iran, those Colonels in Greece...
     
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    Looks like the quote function screwed up. If this plot was a good idea, why did Trump fire Flynn?
     
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    NO chance for a new nazi- sovet pact , plan is crazy and not professional, Canada, Poland, UK,´ll never agree

     
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    Poroshenko has not only committed genocide on the people of Donbass, but on his own soldiers by not training them and telling them of situations which would lead to their deaths so they wouldn't surrender. This is why the Ukrainian army today is almost non existent.

    Other than that he survives by blackmailing the US and EU for more money, and after taking a chunk for himself, spends the rest on continuing the genocide... with the help of the Nazis of course. This way he could say they're paramilitaries and claim innocence. Some racket! The man is pure evil...but he does have connections with 'The Swamp' in Washington, so he was put in.

    In the meantime his people go hungry and freeze, while his income each year rises substantially. He should be strung up like Mussolini... which considering the protests going on now in Kiev, he might be by the very Nazis he supported.




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    If Poroshenko and the rest followed the Russian suggestion as to how they could remain intact as a nation... such as federating into different states and giving each one more rights, there wouldn't be a war right now. But anything productive is beyond them

    As for the Russian plans at Minsk, Russia was not legally involved in the war so there were no plans. They were there as observers and refused the militias request to unite with Russia ... Of course this is something the propaganda networks will never say.

    What Russia did was force the Donbas to accept Poroshenko's surrender when they were trapped in a cauldron by closing the border. Had Putin not done that, the militia would have continued freeing the rest of Novorussia.
     
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    Nuland's government of Ukraine at work:

    [video=youtube;4SRW5pTupQM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SRW5pTupQM[/video]

    [video=youtube;2zgTl6-KWqg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zgTl6-KWqg[/video]

    [video=youtube;mqtwQs2h5Vs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtwQs2h5Vs[/video]
     
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    Why does Russia want Ukraine? They haven't been all that successful with Russia proper. I know they flirted with democracy in the 1990s, but have returned to authoritarianism in recent years.
     
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    Probably funded by dirty oil money from the Middle East to drive a wedge between the US, UK, EU and Russia. Time to put all this BS aside and focus on the more important issues to dismantle fundamental Islam in all the advanced industrialized economies of the world.
     
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    Why would Arab oil money bother with Russia? OPEC broke them by simply not cutting production.
     
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    I don't bother to look because I don't care if this particular story is true or not. It comes from the New York Times, so there is a good chance it's fake. If it's not fake, I don't see what the problem is. What's going on that is so terrible?
     
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    Haven't you heard about the sabateurs in the intelligence community leaking information? It's pretty big news in the states.
     
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    Having a state which do not have allegiance with the central government when creating a federal government is not really favorable for Ukraine. It's like supporting still a cheating two timer wife. ;) if you know what I mean.

    and How's Crimea now under Russia?
    here it is.

    Russia annexed Crimea and it could not support it economically,
    hmmmm, maybe that's why they opted for a federal government,
    Let Ukraine support the Russians within it's folds.
    Terrific. :roflol:
     
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    And the coup in Honduras in 2009.

    You can add Libya to the list, too.
     
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    They need a Russian-leaning Ukraine as a buffer-State, sort of like Belarus. The last thing Russia wants is Ukraine as a NATO member with US forces based there.

    I don't see where the information "leaked" so far has been all that damaging.
     
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    I'm not bothered by the information either. I agree that Flynn needs to communicate with his Russian counterparts, and his counterparts in all countries we have to deal with. However, the MSM put the worst possible spin on it, so Flynn lost his job. It's stupid, but that's politics.
     
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    Russia is going to upgrade the ISS, Nauka. Then ISS 2.

    The sanctions are a joke. Not slowing Russian down. They also upgrading the military. While America is lost in their own propaganda. Confused, ignorant of basic history with Crimea. Which is easy to find out by any research.

    America you are losing. Lost in your own game. While the Russians are looking beyond you.
     
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    Then why bother to post it's fake when you clearly don't have a clue, your opinion have no basis, it's a belief grounded in paranoia
     
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    Ditching sanctions impeachable?
    Deposing foreign leaders impeachable?
    Oh my you have a vivid imagination
     
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    what the hell is the "Alt Left"?

    never heard of it
     

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