Business owners stand by decision to fire workers who protested

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    No, silly. They do it because they're compassionate huggy-bears.

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    Progs and protesting Lefties are like the Pope. Magically virtuous.

    Only heretics don't see that.
     
  2. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    I agree. No one should be fired for having a sick day or a holiday day.

    What made you think this guy doesn't give his staff the usual allotment of days off? I didn't read that anywhere. I read only that he fired them for taking a non-approved day off.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget about all those Compassionate Huggy-bear bosses who told their staff that Trump supporters should resign. The Trumpsters didn't actually have to protest, or even take a longer than usual lunch break. They just had to BE.
     
  4. Brewskier

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    The "paid time off" that you are falsely trying to equate this to is almost always approved by the employer. Paid time off typically includes maternity leave, vacation, holidays, sick leave, and a few others. It does not cover employees who decide to not go to work because they want to send a big FU to society for not electing the politicians they wanted elected. Employers don't need to take money out of their own pockets to cover nonsense like this.
     
  5. SiNNiK

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    It's more than taking a non-approved "day off", they were trying to show how badly they could "stick it to the man" by disrupting America's economy (which was a stated goal), intentionally trying to hurt "the man" that hired them in the first place. Not smart.

    Conversely I hope that employer has learned his lesson about hiring illegals.

    Just say no.
     
  6. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Or like the tea party.

    It actually sounds like they warned the boss ahead of time. And this is clearly not a matter of business sense. People taking 1 day off is not going to be more damaging than having to fill 30 positions in terms of productivity. If he had deadlines to meet, firing them won't help, and rather than being an ass about it he could have made an arrangement to have them do the work at a different time. This is just him sticking it to them because he disapproves of their politics.
     
  7. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    They have already proven that they are not trustworthy.

    Arrangement? How about "You're fired!"

    I likey. :)

    BTW, as if warnings meant anything, he also warned them too. Sooo.........
     
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    Do you understand that Masons have contracts ?

    I'm sure you would be more then happy if they were doing work for you and went past the contract deadline if his workers wanted to just walk off for a day but i assure you most people would not.
     
  9. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Considering that I talked about meeting deadlines it's obvious that I do. So you think that having to hire 30 new people will help him meet the deadline?
     
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    He had no choice. You simply can not have a work force that comes and goes as it pleases.
     
  11. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you want ALL of the employees to lose their jobs? You didn't think that emotional thought through to its logical conclusion.
     
  12. Hummingbird

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    What the hell are you babbling about? This employer's foreman and 30 some bricklayers didn't show up for work and that would throw a serious wrench in his production!! And he had clearly warned them about not showing up, that there would be consequences, but they pulled their childish stunt anyway, despite his warning b/c they just had to protest.......now they can protest everyday.

    And where does it say that they didn't have their vacation, sick leave? It doesn't!

    These 'men' sound like the liberal crybaby college kids who needed their safe space, therapy dogs and hot chocolate b/c Trump won the election.

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    What the hell are you babbling about? This employer's foreman and 30 some bricklayers didn't show up for work and that would throw a serious wrench in his production!! And he had clearly warned them about not showing up, that there would be consequences, but they pulled their childish stunt anyway, despite his warning b/c they just had to protest.......now they can protest everyday.

    And where does it say that they didn't have their vacation, sick leave? It doesn't!

    These 'men' sound like the liberal crybaby college kids who needed their safe space, therapy dogs and hot chocolate b/c Trump won the election.
     
  13. WalterSobchak

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    They deserve to be fired IMO.

    I only question why the righties supported Kim Davis for NOT doing her job, yet applaud these 2 knuckleheads getting fired for NOT doing their job.
     
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    Ha, well you do have a point. Though the companies who get the business could then hire them. And the business owner did the same since it is almost certainly not the most efficient solution to this problem.
     
  15. Steve N

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    Dude, you're making stuff up if not outright lying. The techs I manage are covered by a 437 page CWA contract which covers 16,000 employees and absolutely no where does it say they have a right to protest or a right to protest that puts my company and its customers in jeopardy.

    My techs would go right to a final written warning AS PER THE CONTRACT if they pulled a no call/no show. If they have prior disciplinary actions they'd be toast and there's not a thing the CWA could do about it.
     
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    Screw freedom of expression.

    And no one else EVER takes a day off when their not really sick. No one!!!

    Course I know of a few people who took off the day to watch Trump's inauguration. But that's different. Freedom of expression has no place but staying home to watch TV is another matter.
     
  17. Steve N

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    So employees now warn the boss. Well, that didn't last long.
     
  18. Steve N

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    Freedom of expression? Why do you guys always come up with all this freedom stuff when you have no other valid argument? No show/No call is not freedom of expression, it's willfully sticking it to your employer who then exercised his freedom of expression.
     
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    Exactly! I used to shop exclusively at Target and never looked at the price tag of anything I bought. I went for the convenience, no lines, cleanliness of store, etc.

    I have cut down my purchasing there by a solid 75% (still go if I need something and don't have the time to go elsewhere)

    They made their decision to pander to a certain group based on their politics, that group, unlike my household, does not have the incomes to get all of their household supplies/food there.
     
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    Well, the story indicated that most just skipped work.
     
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    Time off requires asking for it in advance, unless you are sick.

    Here are examples from the OP article:
    These aren't huge corporations, these are small businesses who can't afford slow-downs or shut-downs. I'd support their right for not being fired to protest the company, but not the country. It sounds like these bosses were reasonable men who got screwed over by ungrateful workers who were TRYING to hurt the businesses. That's why you do a shut-down--to hurt somebody's business.

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    I'm a rightie that thought Kim Davis got it too easy by not being fired.
     
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    You are a rare breed around these parts.
     
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    Those workers will be better off in the future...nothing better in life then to stick it to the man.
     
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    Employment is a contractual agreement where the employee generally does not get to set the terms.
     
  25. crank

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    Thank you for pointing that out. That was also my thought.

    We have illegals in this country, and the businesses which hire them are usually their 'own kind', and only service 'their own kind'. Locals who hire illegals are almost always dodgy (any business prepared to break laws is clearly not too concerned about integrity). Consequently our citizens don't want to use businesses which employ illegals. Not even our Progressives want to use them ... which is hilariously ironic.
     

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