Muslim Leader in Australia says its OK to use violence against women

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Muslims consider Prophet Muhammad to be their role model.

There is a saying by Aisha :

The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, did not strike a servant or a woman, and he never struck anything with his hand.

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So the Bible/Qur'an are not for all time, then.


The best book about Mohammad's views would be the Qur'an/hadith, and Mohamammad said to kill gays, crucify as punishment (Q5:33), treat women's testimony as a mere ONE-HALF that of the superior Muslim male, and only give women a mere ONE-HALF of the inheritance of the superior Muslim male, etc, etc., etc. Stop defending a barbarian like that.
Talon, I don't think you understand Islam at all - but to show us that you do, please tell us the 3 very worst things that Mohammad did (off the top of your head). Thanks.

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Aisha, in a hadith, also said that Mohammad struck her......so Mohammad followed Q4:34 - he was a wife beater. Not role model material, obviously. To think that a wife beater who had sex with a 9 year-old is a role model is the epitome of insanity.

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It's used to suppress women - god doesn't understand right from wrong. They also don't let women have the same rights (Bible/Qur'an) - a woman can't have multiple husbands if she chooses. Christians/Muslims/Jews are misogynists.

 

Where the HELL did I say that!? I never did. Stop putting words in my mouth. I condemn any religion that gives tacit approval to the misogynistic practice of polygamy.

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There is a saying by Mohammad that "women are deficient in intelligence". Can you join me in loving/caring for women by condemning Mohammad for sayng that (or is womens' rights not an important issue in your life)?

 

In other words: the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-powerful Allah didn't understand right from wrong as we know them today - Allah just went along with the non-god human barbaric norms of the 7th century, and never, in 1400 years, bothered to update that morality in his teachings. I agree with that.

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I bet you can't condemn Mohammad for saying to cut off hands/feet as punishment, can you? If you can't, then you are agreeing that if one of your family members today committed a crime, that you would have no moral standing in opposing that their hands/feet get cut off.

 

It's even worse, my information says Mohammad (I can't believe anybody would be this perverse) had his eye on her for future sex when she was a BABY, and married her when she was only SIX. (and then yes, he violated her when she was a mere 9 years old.) A Modern Secular Humanist, had they been in Allah's shoes, would have said to Mohammad "whoa, stop doing the kid, you're my #1 chosen role model, you're making me look like a fool - admit that you were wrong to rape a 9 year-old!!"
Capitalism, would you do what Modern Secular Humanist would do and say the above statement if you were in Allah's shoes, or would you have allowed your #1 role model of all time (Mohammad, apparently) to reduce the credibility of your belief system by raping a child, with no consequences? Please tell us.

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Islam is even worse than most people realize...read this and try not to throw up (I doubt most people can do that): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

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One this is for sure: if Mohammad did today what he did in his life then in any civilized nation on earth he'd be in jail with many many life sentences (child rape, torture, beating women, rape of captives, etc.)

 

I'm not a Muslim, FS That alone should speak to what I think about Islam and Mohammed.

Getting back to Dashti's book, have you ever read Twenty Three Years?

 

Nonsense! That tells us very very little. I knew that's what you'd say, basically. You give tacit approval all the time to Mohammad since you "can't condemn Mohammad for saying to cut off hands/feet as punishment, can you?" You can't do it even when asked. You are giving a pass to barbarity. It's like "I'm not a Nazi but I can't bring myself to condemn Nazis/Holocaust". I can see right through you.

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Why are you not a Muslim? Please tell us the 3 very worst things about Allah/Mohammad in your opinion, off the top of your head.

 

Can someone explain this to me:
mohammed received the first koranic verses through the angel gabriel in a cave in mecca
These verses were peaceful. He had a small following..mainly family...
Then we went to medina, where he attempted to preach to jews
They laughed at him
He then became a warlord and murdered jews who did not convert
Did mohammed become a murdering warlord first, or did allah tell him to in
the violent verses of the medina koran.eg strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers...
kill all unbelievers....
If mo was the perfect man, why didnt he say
Hang on gabe...Im a peaceful prophet....I dont want to be a murdering warlord.
All a bit confusing isnt it..what came first the chicken or the egg...
Was allah a violent jekyll and hyde god...
Or was mo the jekyll and hyde, whose ego was boosted when he became
violent.....so much boosted that he became even worse...what happened to the peaceful mo.
I think allah said:
Gabe, I want you to tell mo to become the al capone of the middle east..
slaughter all the jews, and then my mate adolf can finish the job later....
I cant give you any tommy guns, but you guys are pretty damned good with those swords....

islam is just a bunch of absolute rubbish and everyone believes it...
Who was it that said religion occurred when the first fool met the first conman.....!!!!

 

Excellent post.
Yes Jesus/Moses/Mohammad/Buddha were con men.

 

Yep, and most of the other apologists can't, either.

 

Hmmm - lets compare:-

Muslim Cleric - violence against women is a "last resort"

Donald Trump "Grab them by the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)"

So, which one is worse??

 

Okay if we are relying on historical events let us look at some Christian interventions

Crusades
Holy wars
Witch trials and of course the
Spanish Inquisition

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...IuFK6L5o15y2Lh__8Of4kjZpj2ReaZ8YiZJ3lYW57mvpw

To name but a few

Do you know the only faith that has not been embroiled in a religious based war?

Buddhism

 

Amazing the evilness of people who cheerfully used outriders and the mentally ill members of some religion as an excuse to attacked and degrade a large fraction of the human race due to their religion faith.

It seem all to human to do so and sadly whole societies had been wipes out in the past over the religion question of Jesus being divine or human and if divine the nature of that divinity.

To sum up given the bloody history of Christianity, Christians have no right or stranding to look down on other people religions due to the actions of outriders of those religions.

For a religion figure of peace far more people had been killed, many by slow torture, in the name of Jesus for one reason or the other then in the name of Muhammad.

 

Your information is false........

 

Well? Are you gonna elucidate it or not?

 

Some claim that the second half of the Koran abrogates the first. Its BS,

Further, this Australian Muslim has no authority at all. He's Sunni.

Muslims are permitted to beat their wives with a silk scarf tied to the end of a toothbrush.

 

I could have saved my time and effort in the asking!

 

If you people think you know what's best, it is all yours. Good luck, you will hear no more from me. Be warned though, DON'T ASK ME FOR HELP IN A DECADE OR SO. I am done with this.

 

What will we all do without you.

 

Which part is false prey tell oh wise one...

 

No issues with someone who cannot understand what "last resort" means. It means that you explore every other avenue before you ever even think about violence and mate there are more than a few christians who use violence as normal and acceptable

Look at Trump - Grabbing someone by the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) IS violence, it is unwelcome and intrusive and the context in which it was said made it clear that Trump does not do that as a "last resort"

So - please explain to me where one is so wrong and the other so right

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Unless that is a bloody big scarf and toothbrush it STILL is preferable to being "grabbed by the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" by some sleazebag who thinks he is God's gift to humanity

 

You will probably do nothing, and Australia will end up a Muslim majority nation somewhere in the years between 2070 and 2080 according to the trend from the Australian Bureau of Statistics Census data from 2006 to 2011. But you guys are so smart that you already knew this, right?

 

Maybe we should ask you know who what the future holds for Australia...

 

Don't blame me if the numbers and trends indicate what you don't like. If history is indicative of the future, we will do nothing until it is too late. Furthermore the ignorance of the Australian population is quite astounding.