Bernie Sanders: We Need to End the 50-year-long Israeli Occupation

Well I don't think the Israeli's need to go back to Europe after being evicted 50 years ago and that's why I never believed they still had any grounds for returning to Zion after being evicted from there 2000 years ago. But they certainly should not be doing to the Palestinians the very same thing that was done to them when the Palestinians had nothing to do with that. They want the world to cry about the Holocaust that they endured for less than five years and meanwhile turn a blind-eye to what they've been doing to the Palestinians for 50 years.

But I think I understand why Bernie (who is Jewish by the way, and fled Poland during the German invasion), because he knows what apparently only a small minority of US citizens (and really only US citizens) do not. And that thing that he knows is that in the UN the world condemns Israel more than any other Nation, and the US is the only shield from UN sanctions out of any other UN member. That means that our obstruction of the majority view in the UN suffers the US Foreign Relations. And not only that, but considering that we've provided trillions of dollars in military-aid that provide Israel the tools to do the things the world condemns them for, that doesn't go over well around the globe for the US either. And to be clear, that funding comes from US taxpayers. Now some please also consider how much debt we have right now, talking about "we cannot afford to pay for Universal Healthcare, College education, our own infrastructure" but some how we can afford to give money away to other Countries. In fact the US ranks #1 around the World in providing Foreign Aid. And if you want an in-depth look at just "who's getting how much and for what" look here.

 

Well they cannot exactly call him anti-Semitic.

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No that was Hillary

 

I'll give you some straight answers

 

So go ahead and break every Treaty we've ever signed, based just on the whims of how some assortment of fake 'progressives' and antisemites are feeling about something today. Do that for all agreements. Get back to us on how that works out in the real world for our national security and foreign relations. If you think tossing Israelis or any other ally under the bus and being genocided is going to make the U.S. safer, you really truly are butt stupid.

We've already done the 'Neutral' and 'Isolationist' gig, several times; it never worked then, and it will not work now or ever. Get over it.

 

No- Israel was legitimized by means of recognition of their unilateral declaration of statehood by many countries- so Zionists do have a legal homeland- even though many countries did not recognize it and still don't today. That's not a problem. The problem is that they were not satisfied with that and wanted somebody else's too. It clearly can't be permitted . It's against the basic principles of the United Nations Charter, international and customary law and the human rights of Palestinians.
If they were to get away with it- who would be lining up to steal YOUR country ?

 

Yes, many countries that did not want those refugees on their soil supported the Zionist agenda. And lets be clear about how Israel established it's Statehood. Israel kicked out the British occupation that assisted the refugees with getting in there in the first place. The Irgun (Zionist militant group) was the first to be labeled a terrorists group by the British. So we can talk about yesterday or today, but no matter how you want to address it there is no justification of the legitimacy of the Israeli state and certainly not for it's behavior.

By the way, I'm Native American so I'm already familiar with the concept of someone stealing my nation.

 

Certainly. I would also love to hug the guy, given the chance.

You?

 

I wont be suprised if he got Bibi's happy end where the sun doesnt shine - judging by his "criticism" on Israelis

 

There are many many arrows fired from your post yet none hit any targets.

That's pretty much in line with Trump's presidency, one way or another.

American Jews are, on average, both progressive and pro-zionist - a contradiction they assume pretty well.

The jews are not getting "genocided", the Palestinians are.

And how does supporting apartheid makes the US safer? It makes it the target of likewise-minded individuals on the other side. You really think 9-11 would have happened if you guys didn't caused the mess-around in the ME?

Well, you can always comfort yourself with the fact that some rich people got richer for all of your deaths.

Yeah - your military campaigns of late has been resounding successes, huh?

 

Yet no outrage for the 200 plus year occupation of North America by Europeans. Just more liberal hypocrisy.

 

Me? Me, I'm way too superficial to fall in love, hon.

 

Justified or not- and some Brits thought it was initially- Israel is a legal entity. Up to a point, that is. International law practitioners maintain that its legal borders remain as designated by Resolution 181 of 1947. We can address that at the appropriate juncture

Kewl. I admire your resilience. Native Australians too.

 

Thanks for the comedy post and reciting of the usual fake news and fake 'talking points'. They're just so rare here yours are extra Speshul and exotic.

 

Where are you running to?

 

Why would I run? You delusional enough to believe your gibberish is worth parsing?

 

You are still running, BTW.

If you have to flee the discussion, at least do it like most people do - don't respond. That way, at least, you'll keep a modicum of dignity, instead of hurling your own feces.

 

Is that what you tell yourself when you're being laughed at and ignored? Your gibberish has been exploded over and over and over and over a few million times, all over the innernetz. You aren't speshul, and of course people are just bored with repeating themselves blasting the antisemitic bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You're just irrelevant, and here to be mocked, not taken seriously.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty open to talking about "whatever/whenever" but you should know that I'm not a big believer in the Law. Courts pick-and-choose out of convenience when which laws are going to be recognized and enforced. And some people have extra immunities that others don't. The US Constitution is a joke, the courts are a joke, law-enforcement and the concept of "protect-and-serve" is an oxymoron, and don't even get me started on the subject of incarceration in the US.

 

Its not

He never could have won. He is toast . Only far left progressives give a crap what he says

 

How about the thousands of years of people other than Jews occupying Judea ?

 

Or the thousands of years of Jews occupying Judea?

 

Neat. I'll look at it thanks.

PS can I see ur avatar? O.O

 

I'll need more time to get to know you first.

 

Local law, national law- they vary from country to country . International law is universal- and influences us all equally. When a country scorns it- as Israel does- then that's a serious concern for everybody. Certainly, the US is guilty in assisting Israel to defy the law- and that's bad news for everybody- except Zionists and those under their influence.

 

Except all countries haven't acted equally.

One side accepted the UN offer to have it's own country and live peacefully alongside the other side; but the other side refused it's own country and peaceful coexistence and chose instead to join most of the arab world in entering into a war of annihilation against the other side; and that side has carried on that war ever since.

Unless/until the palestinian people defenestrate the genocidal government it put into power and clearly demonstrates it's willingess and determination to coexist peacably with Israel, there's no good reason for Israel to stop building walls and settlements, much less to cede more territory to those who's charter calls for the annihilation of Israel.