Christianity and the Old Testament

God has a "chosen people" in the sense that they are means of bringing the plan of salvation to all people, not in the sense that God has chosen the Jews and excluded all others.

 

Great, lets hear some of your objective analysis. I haven't seen any of that from you in any place on this forum. Start by providing objective data proving the Bible is man made dogma.

 

The history of the Bible or the claimed history within the Bible?

Ah, the old and infantile 'if I don't do what you ask then I'm not prepared for discussion'. False dichotomy much?

The Bible is a work of some humans, is/was interpreted by some humans and believed in by some humans. Calvin, is one of the interpreters. I conclude he was a self-centered and egotistical fellow, an "I'm Special and You're Not" nutter. I have disdain for Calvin's immature interpretations.

But I would agree with you on one point - you and I have quite different understandings of Christianity.

 

Your reading comprehension is poor. Saying "you rely on spoon fed man made dogma" is not saying that the Bible.

And this is clarified

Man made Dogma is what is taught or spouted by religious leaders and/or cult leaders and/or religious adherents. Often this Dogma is not in the Bible, does not reflect what the Bible says, or contradicts what the Bible says.

For example - Pope Innocent IV issuing a Papal Bull legalizing torture of people who "questioned" or did not agree with Church doctrine - is an example of Dogma that goes against the teachings of Jesus.

Just because you have do not understand my posts - does not mean they are not objective analysis

 

Christianity is built on promises from the Old Testament
God unfolds who He is and then 'in the fullness of time' Jesus came
and just as the Jews 'came home' to the 'promised land', in redemption, those saved look forward to 'coming home'
https://www.slideshare.net/MichaelScaman/psalms-book-5

 

I've read many of your posts, and replied to you often. I have never seen a post from you which was analytical and factual.

Christianity is based upon the Bible, not the Pope. The Popes can be wrong, have been wrong many times, and have blatantly used the office and religion as a means to implementing their own earthly agenda - such as Pope Innocent IV of the 13th century. Stop dancing around the issue. You think Christianity is a scam, so make your analytical case.

 

I understand religion plays a role, but your post implies that it is all because of religion. No, it is man, and the desires thereof. For I can assure you, recent American president's have not been one with God. Matter of fact, they have spread a message as to not be one of God. Since the birth of America, we have been in more wars than anyone. And that had nothing to do with being religious, rather greedy for riches and power.

 

No, actually gays hate God.

 

I don't think my post implies that it is all about religion, rather that religion is about power. Certainly other factors exist, such as greed.

 

The religion of Christianity is all about "Love".

 

There are many gay Christians, and gay Muslims, and probably other religions too. Some priests are gay, and clerics in the CoE. So not all gays hate god. Many gay people hate the way some religions demonise and persecute them, though, which is what you may be saying.

 

Including gay people?

 

There are nice gays and there are not-nice gays.
The Sodom/Gomorrah bunch were definitely not nice, they used to hammer on peoples doors demanding the men come out so they could have them, so God zapped the towns, seems fair to me..
The moral is that nobody minds nice, friendly gays, it's just the loud noisy not-nice types who get all gays a bad name.

 

Sorry man, being gay is unnatural, thus cannot produce or continue life. And the actions involved are perverted and disgusting. I think in debating such matters it is important to remember and bring up the actions involved. For those actions are disgusting even if it's a man and woman. The gay community has more std's than any other, yet less population. This is because it is unnatural and was never intended. A reproductive organ (including others) being put inside the digestive system is not at all what it was intended for, thus it is extremely perverted.

 

So your statement was not true.

ETA: I don't care about your opinion of gay people, just as I don't care about your opinion on just about everything you've posted here.

 

It is not for man to judge man. For how can one judge another, lest they first walk in their shoes? The only thing I would say to gays is, you cannot reach the kingdom while continuing such an abomination. However such an abomination, can indeed be forgiven, but it requires one to step away from such evil.

 

What are you talking about? On the matter, all there is..........is opinions.

 

Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed a thousand years before Abraham and Lot.

 

Yes including gay people. I love everybody and would do nothing to hurt anybody.

God loves all, and wants all within His kingdom. When a father's child is doing wrong, the father does not stop loving him/her, rather gives correction because the love that he has for them.

 

Three different answers, what else would I expect?

 

What, you think there are no areas in which there are multiple answers to? My answers did not contradict one another.

 

Homosexuality is sin in Christianity.

 

So Christianity is not Love, as the other guy stated, because it demonises and persecutes gay people.

 

God is love. Homosexuality is sin against God's creation. Love does not tolerate sin. Sin is evil and homosexuality is sin. Watch this.

 

Demonising and persecuting people is not love. That's the point.