‘You are the future of Europe’: Erdogan urges Turks in EU to have at least 5 kids

Aren't some of the migrant troublemakers, that are troubling Europe, African gangs?

 

The high rates of parental failure amongst Christians in America tells us that they don't value children nearly as much as ... say, NE Asians (who aren't Christians).

 

I don't know. I'm going with my own experience of Africans in this country (not America, obviously). They're conservative and clean living, and very ambitious. No gangs that I'm aware of, and their young males mix with whoever is in their neighbourhood/high school (whites and non-Africans).

 

It's a battle for our very civilization:

Muslim Gang Pummels Young Danish Couple for Eating Ham Pizza



The young woman may have lost her hearing after she was smacked in the side of her head.

Speisa.com reported:

Danish police are looking for a gang who beat up a young couple over a pizza slice with ham. The woman now risks permanent damage to her hearing after being punched in the head.

The attack took place outside a pizza restaurant in Silkeborg, where a 24-year-old woman and her boyfriend sat while eating a pizza.

The perpetrator took one of her pieces of pizza and threw it on the ground, which developed into a scuffle, and soon after the perpetrator got help from a group of friends who ganged up on the couple and attacked them with several punches and kicks.

Midtjyllands Avis writes that the young couple were asked if there was pork on their pizza, which they answered yes to.

“Suddenly a young man of other ethnic origin rushed towards the young woman and hit her in the head, so that she has subsequently lost the hearing on one ear. Right now we do not know whether it is a permanent hearing damage! He then takes a stranglehold on her and shouting that she sure as hell should not eat pork on her pizza,” writes the mother of the young man.

We elected Trump, just in time!

 

Europe must part ways with Erdogan

Turkey, once a dependable ally of the West, is on the verge of becoming an authoritarian dictatorship.

As the NATO alliance ponders how to protect its citizens from an avalanche of refugees, humanitarian catastrophe, and terrorists on its eastern door, Turkish voters ponder the referendum of referendums.

The question before them is whether to vote on April 16 to give Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan authority to rule by decree, lifetime immunity from prosecution and extra-judicial powers that totalitarian dictators all say they can’t live without.

Although the controversial, radical political Islamist president has been ruling by state of emergency since an aborted coup last July, he insists he needs a revised Constitution. By his lights, only radical constitutional amendments will enable him to vanquish fanatical extremists of diverse types, including the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and Islamic State. Oh yes, and the new constitution supposedly will pave Turkey’s path to the “great nation” status it held during the Ottoman times.

But since the president’s referendum drive is trailing in the polls, Mr. Erdogan has been making a full-court press to rally a “yes” vote among the Turkish diaspora. He sent his top cabinet ministers in the last two weeks to stump for the referendum among the 2-million strong Turkish vote base in Germany and the Netherlands. To his disappointment, first Germany and then the Netherlands denied permissions to his Justice and Development Party (AKP) ministers to energize the base at his campaign rallies.

Mr. Erdogan marshaled national pride and personal pique to counter-attack. He openly called the politicians in those countries “remnants of Nazis,” while orchestrating large, angry demonstrations on the steps of Dutch and German embassies and stopping the Dutch ambassador’s return to Ankara. AKP supporters in Rotterdam took to the streets in violent clashes with police.

Desperate to win the referendum, the president is burning bridges with the EU regardless of the costs. Although contrary to Turkey’s long-term interests, Mr. Erdogan is hell-bent to stir up nationalist support for his referendum with macho rhetoric against Turkey’s European allies.

It isn’t hard to see why the president is seeking immunity from prosecution.

Among the future troubling worries of Erdogan are upcoming prosecutions for money laundering, circumvention of the Iranian embargo and bank fraud in a New York federal court. Mr. Erdogan used a Turkish-Iranian businessman, 33-year-old Reza Zarrab, to handle huge money transactions between Iran and Turkey breaching sanctions against Iran.

Mr. Erdogan reportedly is worried that Zarrab, who is arrested in New York and has pleaded “not guilty,” will testify against him. Another legal tar pit Mr. Erdogan faces is the now-exposed illicit support for years given to terrorist organizations in Syria including the Islamic States and the al Qaeda affiliates.

Close observers of Turkish elections will tell you that Mr. Erdogan is known for his pursuit of phony enemies especially when the voting nears. His enemy list includes the United States, secularists, the Israelis, the Kurds and now the Europeans, who by the way are Turkey’s chief trading partner. Having closed all opposition TV stations and newspapers, and having jailed hundreds of reporters and editors, the Turkish lapdog press parrots his narrative of a heroic but encircled hero. Especially now with the media in Turkey almost completely controlled by Mr. Erdogan, the majority of Turks hardly see on TV news stories other than those Mr. Erdogan wants them to hear.

The canny head of state in Turkey is a master of intimidation.

With Europeans more apprehensive than ever of terrorist attacks, Mr. Erdogan has ramped up the message of his clergy supporters to advocate a Turkish form of Salafism, basically pushing his base towards jihadists in Europe as well.

He has threatened to close the NATO air base in Incirlik, has insinuated that he could unleash another flood of migrants from Syria, Iraq and many countries in Africa and may well choose to open the portals of Islamic State towards Europe. Counterterror experts estimate that the ISIS cadre in Turkey numbers in the thousands. One of the pro-Erdogan papers published an article recently suggesting that Turkey should take the fire to the homes of Europeans, so that Europeans would have to deal with it in their own countries.

The time has come for the West to raise its loudest voice against the human rights violations in Turkey and make it clear to the victims that they have a champion in the nations of the West. Mr. Erdogan has cleverly played the Syrian refugee and Incirlik-airbase cards against the West for years to gain appeasement from some who are afraid to upset the NATO apple cart.

The time for rethinking that alliance is now.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/16/turkey-must-break-contact-with-europe/

 

I'm trying to be logical. Your post is a simple attack on Christians.
America is...losing its Christian values. Children are not highly valued, not worthy the effort or sacrifice as when our country was more devout.. Childrenused to be first consideration...a valued asset for family and country. Now they are seen as baggage by a secular portion of our society.

It's nervy to single out Christians as bad parents. Total falsehood.

Christians demanded marriage for the benefit of a child born out of wedlock to give that child the best chance of success. The secular trend now days is to drag children around in what ever family unit is most convenient to self-gratifying adults.. Secularism and lack of religion have hurt children and in cases of abortion, has even annialated our offspring.

Muslims are a stronger force then Atheists because they have the commonsense to know that if they have a lot of children, and families of their secular host countries have few children, then they will in time turn the host country into an Islamic state and it will look the same as other Islamic nations which...outlaw or prosecute ATHEISTS.

Yet you have this hatred of Christians.

FYI, Atheism is the weakest of all religions. Without a free Christian society to protect it, it either disappears in a flash or turns into a totalitarian monster like N. Korea of USSR.

 

All very true, but I'm still going with 'they're all as raving mad as each other'.

 

I don't discriminate them on a sectarian basis because I don't know how their different dogmas and beliefs work - nor, may I add, does any westerner. Our big mistake has been, and still is, believing we do.

I don't disagree with one word of that; in fact I've said on this forum many times that they do want (but a conventional one?) war with Russia: it seems the only thing we disagree on is that the 'religion' connection could easily turn it into a nuclear one.

Totally agree with you. One thing I'll never understand is why so many don't see it that way - especially when they're Americans? They don't seem able to 'read the writing on the wall'.

I commented on the latest lot of British troops to Estonia in a post yesterday, and how the fool we have sitting on a government front bench called Fallon sent them. And he's just been elevated. FFS how more surreal can it all get? Alice (in Wonderland) would feel perfectly at home here. You might have read my question also of yesterday 'What 'Russian aggression?' I mean, the West (NATO) has been sabre-rattling for a year now, but they're blaming Putin! He probably thinks he's in the middle of some weird dream and will soon wake up from it?? The highlighted bit about the medal to the Saudi prince reminded me of when Ronald Reagan dedicated a Voyager mission to the effing Taliban, which I've also mentioned in recent days.

 

Ataturk succeed to make Turkey a great country, but turkish people destroyed entirely Ataturk legacy. Today, Turkey is one of the big threat to peace in the european region.

 

There is actually a lesson for Western democracies in that.

We are always only a few unfortunate populist events away tyranny.

 

Just further proof that Muslims are not going to Europe for any other reason than to invade and conquer more land for their religion. The people of Europe should respond like they would in any other kind of invasion attempt.

 

Are you suggesting that Europe respond to this so-called "Muslim Invasion" like Germany responded to the Allied Invasion of Europe in WW2?

That seems rather Draconian, and quite violent.

Is that your position?

 

It's a paradox. Where's poverty and poor education, there's a lot of children. That's why Muslims flood the world and preach their delusional ideology.

 

Europeans need to abandon global Marxism and adopt some sort of blood and soil type nationalism if they want to survive. They need to throw off the "Nazi ghost" (read signature) that has been keeping them from caring about their race, culture, and homelands for the greater part of the last century. They need to take control of their borders and immigration levels. Deport as many people as possible. Once they have their own countries again the birth rates will go up.

 

I think Europeans need to do whatever they can to protect their lands from invasion. A country and a people should have that right. But in this case, they need to close their borders and deport millions of people who don't belong.

 

But it wouldn't be possible without left-wing enablers who set up a welfare state to subsidize the reckless breeding habits of (often) invading immigrants.

 

Why do they need to overpopulate? To end up like India? So overpopulated you ride on top of trains instead of inside it?

Whoever thinks more people is better needs to have their head examined.

 

I don't understand. Are you saying minorities don't have it good or something?

 

Why dig up this old thread? To have a just another example of overseas people using their rather clueless and highly simplified bumper sticker wisdom and telling others how to live?

 

I don't think Europe (or Turkey) have many Liberals.