Russia DID NOT hack the DNC...

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Given Comey's half-statements and given his profession in law enforcement. I think what he tried to say, is that neither the FBI nor the Justice Department gave authorization, and he ruled out foreign entanglement. But we know they got this information. Inside rat. He then tried to provide defense for the rat. No, we're not going to tolerate a second Snowden. Whoever this rat is, is going to face a criminal justice system.
     
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    Hopefully. I think it is beyond doubt that Trump Tower was bugged, at this point.

    Love that Asimov quote. Brilliant.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No evidence of anything Comey "alluded to" has been produced, and the FBI themselves admit that the DNC refused them access to the hacked server. Please, by all means, explain to us all where else the forensic data would be found, if not that server.

    And , guess what, private individuals and organizations are subject to FBI investigations, AND SUBPOENAS on their behalf all the time. For some reason, the leftover Obama FBI didn't seem to think they needed to get into the allegedly "hacked" server. At you really this naïve, or do you just try making crap up, to see if anyone falls for it?
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    You keep saying this like it's fact, but you're making an assumption. Either way, I think it smells. I've thought the Russian involvement has been blown so far out of proportion that it is nothing but a political ploy to distract.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Practically every POS in the Trump administration has some type of financial tie to Russia and its Oligarchy. And they all lied about it. Six thus far are under investigation. How do you not get how deep this runs and how fetid it is...OMG!
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ies-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
     
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    In the wildest dreams of everyone involved with pinning some wrong doing on the Russians, in the end, it's only a few DNC emails. Podesta's emails released later were from a different server. At theach point when these emails were released, Trump was still thought to have trouble getting the nomination. He wasn't even the Republican candidate yet. Yet, your saying that his inner circle attempted treason with the Russian government to prove DWS actively pushed hillary at Bernie's detriment while he was still shaky to get through the convention and a huge underdog even if he did. This is so absurd. Now, you pile on the fact that no one in law enforcement had even looked at the server in question, and you have a blown out of proportion political distraction and Obama applying sanctions based on lose data and ultimately because a few emails revealed that the DNC are repugnant.
     
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    And you might be right Freak. But their is soooooo muck smoke happening here, should we not at least have an official investigation into it ?

    Every intelligence agency says the russians affected the election. Should we not at least find out if there was collision ? Without that Trumps entire presidency has an asterisk. He cant fully govern while the left has this over his head. To be effective they need to clear this up.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you read my post even....
     
  9. shades

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    Glad someone else caught this ^^^

    the whole thing is absurd
    To think we will be able to draw any conclusion beyond doubt is beyond sane thinking
     
  10. shades

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    It will be cleared up, and you will find something else to whine about, seems pointless no?

    And this asterisk you speak of, will it be as big as Barrack Husseins?
     
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    Before you go off on a tangent you obviously know nothing about, you should prolly research it, and read my posts.

    The "server" may never have been "hacked". Gaining access to it can happen in a myriad of ways, and none of them requiring a "hack" to the server. Gaining permissive account based access without authorization is actually pretty easy these days. I can do that by watching the local computers of those persons whose permissions based access I need (i.e. admins), gaining their passwords, and then logging into the server with that information, which requires no "hack" to the server. SO therefore the "forensic data" they need would reside on the local computer they received the passwords from......

    Again, please educate yourself on that which you try to debate.
     
  12. MMC

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    So.....the DCCC and Hillary's Campaign was hacked. Yet none think the DNC was hacked? Donors were hacked. Demos in the House and Senate were hacked.

    The Russians hacked the WH thru State Dept computers. Hacked into the State Dept. This all leads back to Hillary and her people. Which Comey did say Hillary's aides were breached. While saying Hillary wasn't. Which is a crock of ****.

    Hillary and her people were breached. They then compromised any they were in touch with. That would include the Neo Cons Graham and McCain.
     
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    DNC email leak: Russian hackers Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear behind breach.....


    Guccifer 2.0, the hacker behind the recent Democratic party email leak, is not a single operator but Russian cybercriminals designated Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear by investigators who have invaded the White House and the Bundestag between them, according to leading cybersecurity firms.

    Security firm ThreatConnect issued a comprehensive report on Tuesday using their own data and data from previous reports by rivals CrowdStrike, Mandiant and Fidelis.

    Crowdstrike associates Fancy Bear with other Russian intrusions, notably one into the German Bundestag in May and another into French television network TV5 Monde. Cozy Bear has dug into the state department the joint chiefs, and the White House, said CrowdStrike, which analyzed those hacks.

    Another security company, Secureworks, found what may be the culprit: a fake Google login page targeting the Clinton campaign......snip~


    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/26/dnc-email-leak-russian-hack-guccifer-2

    4 different security firms. Imagine that.
     
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    It is quite amusing now that the election is over.....that Russians are still hacking those Donors to the Demos. Yet the Demos want to deflect to Trump and keep the focus there and not on themselves. As then eventually someone will figure out where it all began. Which will lead back to Hillary and Her team of incompetent cult members doing what they wanted. As well as highlighting just how the Demos are compromised as a Party.



    Russian Hackers Said to Seek Hush Money From Liberal Groups

    Post-election crime wave by attackers demanding bitcoins

    Center for American Progress said to be among victims


    Russian hackers are targeting U.S. progressive groups in a new wave of attacks, scouring the organizations’ emails for embarrassing details and attempting to extract hush money, according to two people familiar with probes being conducted by the FBI and private security firms.

    At least a dozen groups have faced extortion attempts since the U.S. presidential election, said the people, who provided broad outlines of the campaign. The ransom demands are accompanied by samples of sensitive data in the hackers’ possession.

    At least some groups have paid the ransoms even though there is little guarantee the documents won’t be made public anyway. Demands have ranged from about $30,000 to $150,000, payable in untraceable bitcoins, according to one of the people familiar with the probe.

    Cozy Bear
    Attribution is notoriously difficult in a computer attack. The hackers have used some of the techniques that security experts consider hallmarks of Cozy Bear, one of the Russian government groups identified as behind last year’s attack on the Democratic National Committee during the presidential election and which is under continuing investigation. Cozy Bear has not been accused of using extortion in the past, though separating government and criminal actors in Russia can be murky as security experts say some people have a foot in both worlds......snip~

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...id-to-seek-hush-money-from-liberal-u-s-groups
     
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    Not necessarily and who did a better job rolling out a huge website the government with the Obamacare website or Facebook? Perhaps that is EXACTLY who they should have turned to.
     
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    OH look, infowars everyone! It must be true!
     
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    The House Intelligence Committee is a show and tell media circus. And anyone else who wants to get some publicity can walk up and get their media hype.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee is the body to watch in this whole situation. Tom Cotton, James Lankford and John Cornyn in particular.
     
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    Did Russia "hack" the Democrats? Maybe.

    Is there ANY proof of an illegal Trump-Russia connection? No.
     
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    To be clear, the Russian's total effect was a few emails before Trump was nominated that shown collusion within the DNC and with the media pushing Hillary. That's what is being blown out of proportion.
     
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    Stealing passwords and logging into a computer system is a form of hacking.
     
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    There is no maybe.....hacking the DCCC and Donors, the DNC, Hillarys Campaign, Hillarys Aides and the State Dept ran by Demos. The WH ran by Demos and the Pentagon ran by Demos. Means the Demos were hacked.

    Hacked and breached. Compromised.

    That should be the news. All about how the Demos are incompetent, all due to letting Hillary and her people be above the law.

    Lets get that up and running on social media.....and start playing like the Demos do.

    The Repubs need a War time consigliere and one that will be about destroying the Demos for the victims they were created to be.
     
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    Well, they did get the Opposition research on Trump from the Demos.
     
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    I suppose it's a no brainer to remind that the MSM have no intention of rehashing this story, because the Hill is lost in the woods. She isn't politically relevant any more. Knowing that the democratic infra is so astoundingly insecure isn't news anymore. What will be news is if it continues to be a problem for them. I doubt that it won't. Headstrong and stupid seems to run deep within their smug.
     
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    They will have no choice if that is flooding Social media non stop. Lets put House Russia back into who's house played like Paul McCartney, and Let em in.

    We even have a pic of the Russian Ambassador sitting with the Demos on the floor of Congress when Trump gave his speech.

    I would sit with my clients who was giving me the most money too.
     
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    Exactly, then why worry if the FBI didn't "get access to the server" ?
     

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