What can Trump do to lose his base?

Bloody few and how many has he destroyed by cutting government programs like the EPA?

 

He's a liar.. Look at every claim about jobs that he's made.. He's taken credit for decisions made by CEOs two years ago... and now they hate him too.

 

Right now a lot of the information are leads. Where those leads go, and what data they collect is not going to be public record. You are right that we cannot convict the Trump administration on the current body of facts, as it is nothing more than circumstantial. However, when the circumstantial leads to a money trail and is proven to be more than circumstantial then we have a case. Give us some time and our leads will show something. At least I'm 100% confident that we will find more on Trump than what you all found on Hillary and Benghazi.

 

I am willing to wait and see but so many on the left have no desire to wait. As for Hilary, she was secretary of state and it was her job to protect our ambassadors in other countries and she did nothing to protect the ambassador and his people.

 

Nope, the GOP and hate radio put Obama's name on the PPACA.

 

Congress voted NOT to provide security funding for US Embassies and Consulates EXCEPT in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

Then congress and Obama share the blame for the deaths as well as Hilary.

 

You obviously don't know a bloody thing about Libya.

 

I do know Libya is not a safe place for any other than Muslims which is why we should have had more protection for our embassy or not even have one there in the first place. This still falls in the hands of the Obama administration.

 

How is Hillary to blame? She's not Trump you know, she couldn't pay the millions that Security for that Embassy would cost out of her own pocket. (even if paying for it herself would be legal anyway)

How does knowledge about Libya give Hillary funding CONGRESS took away?

Administrations are not Congresses, whether we have an Embassy somewhere and how much security we fund for it is a Congressional matter. What happened in Benghazi was the fault of the CONGRESS, if it was the fault of anyone but the Libyan people

Secretaries have broad power in their areas, but Secretaries work for the PRESIDENT, and even there, their positions are advisory in the end.

Finally, the safety of an Embassy is always really guaranteed by the host nation. If the entirety of a nation turns against an Embassy there really isn't much that ANY Security stationed there can do. Since it would insult the host most Embassies of ALL nations, while usually well-secured structures, are not fortified enough to withstand serious attacks. Embassies are sacrosanct everywhere since attacking one can result in every nation in the world withdrawing theirs and is a recognized casus belli.

 

There were over 100 amendments in the ACA that came from Republicans.

How many amendments from ANYONE in Trumpcare?

 

Phew...talk about divisive...

 

Congress knew that.

 

This, so much thisThis deserves it's own thread. Bill Maher has said this twice and I think he should do a show on it. The right has spent going on 40 years building up an ideology that is so alien to actual American values it's like we're being invaded by a foreign power and with Trumps faux "victory" they won, but not entirely, there is still a very strong resistance. The problem is how long can we go on as an occupied country before the occupation itself starts to do us serious damage

 

Just what are "actual American values"? I am sure every point you make, there will be a counter point made by the opposition. Who is to say what are the true values of "Americans". Your values may not be my values and there are even more values that other value more.

 

No, it's not all about hurting foreigners. Border security and vetting immigrants is just one issue.

Trade, rebuilding defense, tax reform, Supreme Court, defending the 2nd Amendment, and putting people back to work at good jobs are all on his agenda.

I agree with most of his agenda, and I disagree with some of it. But to say he's only got one issue is simply incorrect.

 

Freedom and Diversity. Freedom by design and diversity by history. We are unique in the world in being a large nation that has both at the same time and has had them for most of our history as a mature nation (since the ACW), therefore they define us

 

Trump does have several agendas indeed, and some them are not terrible ideas. That isn't the question though, the question is what must Trump do to lose support, and the answer is to stop bashing Muslims and Hispanic illegals. He's made either no or negative progress on everything else you mention and nobody cares, but he hasn't stopped bashing his enemies for one minute, and that's all they care about.

 

Whoa!!!! "Rebuilding defence"??? Why? You already have one of the bigges military machines in the world

 

Thing is everyone thinks Trump is in line with THIER agenda - I have seen it here in our far right that built until they actually started to compare notes then it fractured and rebuilt until the same thing happened again. Tea Party was a CLASSIC example of this - everyone thought that the central agenda matched thiers

Trump made so many wild and vague promises that anyone could have read anything into any of it.

 

If Trump's convicted of Treason, then obviously. If any of his policies prove negative(One such example is his cut of the Diplomatic Corps), I'll oppose it as well.

 

Wouldn't he create more jobs just straight building homes for everyone on government land for free, the construction cost would be the same as building a 40,000 mile concrete reinforced wall monitored by the highest tech, or lowest tech...or no tech..just a wall...WTF.

IMO both ideas are as stupid as voting for Trump...but f#$k it.
this is what the people want.

 

Trump in my opinion took on more then he could actually get accomplished but time will tell what he does get done.

I'm still waiting on the removal of NAFTA but since he has become president I have heard nothing new on this topic. Has anyone heard if this is still on his to do list?

 

The whole point of the wall is to slow down or deter illegal immigrants from pouring into our country. Is it really hard to come here legally?

 

Yes, there are two barometers: The cost of legalization(About $400 or so if I recall correctly) but far more burdensome is the amount of years on the wait list. I want to propose a new system that would dramatically reduce the amount of years on that list to around 3-5(and I'd expedite cases that have already been in the previous system for that amount of time.)

You get a better, faster system in place and you'd get more legal immgirants than illegal ones.