I'm A Liberal, Ask Me Anything

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by BobbySerious, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    In this day and age, few adults would survive on their own anyway. I guess it's just hard to know where to start in arguing with somebody who tries to hold potential beings as sacred. It seems self-evidently ridiculous to me. In reality, it's all about whether they have a mind. Without a mind, there is no being. Without a mind, there is no suffering, no pain, no nothing. It's not a person at all without a mind. It's just biological machinery with no moral relevance except, like all other biological machinery that goes on in the mother's body, with respect to its relevance to her.
     
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  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    So...then you think American conservatism is equivalent to National Socialism or International Communism, just not quite as bad? Yeah, you really told me off!

    :roflol:
     
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    What lies? I fail to grasp any factual information for your premise. Perhaps you can supply some for us all. If by facts you simply parrot the failure of reported polls to accurately predict the outcome of the election then you may have a point. But that point is underscored by facts. Hillary won by 3 million votes. Trump won by 70k votes in three states. Did the polls accurately predict Hillary winning by that margin nationally? yes. Did they miss the state by state numbers? Yes. Maybe your post is about another set of facts. If so, explain.
     
  4. BobbySerious

    BobbySerious Banned

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    Lol, of course unwanted pregnancies drop when you introduce sex ed and accessible birth control. It's amazing that you could somehow twist even your feeble brain to conclude otherwise.
     
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    BobbySerious Banned

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    No, the government has no such right. A woman does. The government has no right to interfere with decisions surrounding her body.
     
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    currently there are laws by the government about when abortion is legal, states vary on the number of weeks and exceptions to limits etc.
    So if your opinion is like you said the government has no right to interfere with decisions surrounding her body. But currently the gov does interfere. Do you think the existing laws should be changed to legally permit abortion at anytime during all 9 months
     
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    I think it's a rather pointless question as late term abortions are extremely rare and are almost always the result of the health of the mother being jeopardized and a horrific decision/experience for all involved.

    On that note, I have no problem with laws limiting late term abortion to only those types of instances.
     
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    Let me guess, your 'sample group' is strictly Eurocentric American. And based purely on internal comparison.

    Meanwhile, here's how real science works ... gather humans of breeding age from all nations/religions/races, and see which cultural attitude to sex ed results in the least unwanted/teen pregnancies.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You believe then that under certain conditions any woman has the right to terminate a life. Why not a man as well ??
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No...I told you that you distorted what I said.

    Maybe I am wrong though.

    Maybe you did not distort what I said...maybe instead you are not intelligent enough to recognize the distortion...and actually think you did not distort.

    Hey...I'm man enough to say, "My bad."

    I may have overestimated your intelligence. That makes sense. After all, you are an American conservative.
     
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    Just wondering how long you'll continue to avoid the fact you know you lost and ran away from the conversation.
     
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    Fact: Liberals do not understand self-important condescending nonsense like this is why Trump won the election.
     
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    One question... by suggesting that liberals live where the "producers" do, it recognizes that the liberals aren't the producers? Similarly, when the assertion about conservatives is made, it's done absent the recognition of the production component inherent in that relationship....

    More though, it's as if the answer above is simply relying on kindergarten playground tribalism to ascribe some pretentious notoriety to liberalism.....
     
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    Hey I just pointed out what you said. It seems you're the one who has an issue with me pointing it out.
     
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    Have you never considered that there were conservatives in American politics decades before there was anything like "Breitbart".

    And have you considered that a conservative might not necessarily have voted for Trump due to their personal revulsion for him but feel compelled to defend him now because overall they think the policies he advocates are good ideas and/or that the criticism of him is over the top and for that matter, dangerous?
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IF you are unable to see the distortion, Mike, maybe a new eyeglasses prescription is in order. (Or perhaps a brain transplant.)
     
  17. Lil Mike

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    Heh, "a brain transplant."

    You're a regular Oscar Wilde huh?

    Why don't you simply explain your comment?

    "Although I have to acknowledge my judgement may be clouded, because I think American conservatism...the far right in America...is one of the most disgusting political philosophies that has ever existed on planet Earth."
     
  18. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay...lemme 'splain.

    I consider American conservatism to be a pile of dung...a very deep pile of dung. I am sorry so many friends, relatives, and Internet acquaintances are buying into the dung...and actually swimming in it...but there often is no accounting for taste.

    There have been worse political philosophies...Nazism comes immediately to mind. But considering this particular brand of dung is American...I feel strongly about the stench it causes for our nation.

    Ummm...I think that pretty much covers it, Mike. Although I might add: Most of the people supporting the political hierarchy of American conservatism are, in my always humble opinion, being taken for suckers. I doubt most of the people who benefit from the policies of American conservatism would hose you down with fresh urine if they saw your clothes burst into flame.

    K?
     
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    So what are you arguing about then? American conservatism: not quite as bad as the Nazi's but close!

    That's hilarious, and I've enjoyed the opportunity you've given me to have you hammer that particular point over and over again. Most lefties would have gotten wise and figured out what I was doing long ago, but you remained blissfully ignorant, and for that, I thank you!
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well...you should have said "close" rather than distort what I said...as you did, Mike.

    But...if distorting what other people say is something that makes you feel good...do it. We can always call your attention to the fact that you are doing it.

    Great day for golf today in New Jersey. Wish I had played better.
     
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    So explain to me why you find Nazism and American Conservatism pretty comparable?
     
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    Liberals consider themselves to be the champions and purveyors of goodness. They strongly believe that goodness is reflected in their policies. Therefore if anyone opposes their policies those people/groups are against goodness, are evil, and any and all actions and comparisons are acceptable. This is why conservatives are labeled as Nazi's and why leftists in Berkeley and Middlebury destroy property and harm people.
     
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    Only a Nazi would disagree with a liberal - thus, conservatives are Nazis.
     
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    Liberals are basically the Nazis of the global age.
     
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    The only people who do not recognize this are the liberals themselves.
     
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