Jesus Christ the Messiah in The Koran....

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  1. delade

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    http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-day-adventist/TQQSDPJF1LFOCJOBF/isa-the-son-of-marium


    The discrepancy in the Koran which leads many Muslims to believe that Allah does not have a Son is found in the chapter of Marium, Isa's Mother. Isa is Jesus and Marium is Mary. However in the earlier chapter, it is said that Allah does have a Son. And so with the two chapters in conflict, many Imams teach the last message of Marium, that Allah does NOT have a son.

    However, the piercing of the soul of Mary as spoken in Luke 2 gives reasoning of Mary, or Marium's doubt, that Allah definitely would not have a Son unto Himself.

    In both the Koran and The Holy Bible, the Angel announces that Jesus the Messiah, Isa the Messiah, is accepted by God. And God, in both the Koran and Holy Bible attests that 'They' have sent Isa (Jesus), accepted Jesus and resurrected Him.
     
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    [3.45] When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).
    [3.46] And he shall speak to the people when in the cradle and when of old age, and (he shall be) one of the good ones.
    [3.47] She said: My Lord! when shall there be a son (born) to I me, and man has not touched me? He said: Even so, Allah creates what He pleases; when He has decreed a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is.
    [3.48] And He will teach him the Book and the wisdom and the Tavrat and the Injeel.
    [3.49] And (make him) an apostle to the children of Israel: That I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust like the formof a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah's permission and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah's permission and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses; most surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers.
    [3.50] And a verifier of that which is before me of the Taurat and that I may allow you part of that which has been forbidden t you, and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord therefore be careful of (your duty to) Allah and obey me.
     
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    anything the Koran says or Muslim say in reference to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and Jesus Christ the Son of God should be considered sinister at best. Muhammad discovered his god in a building they parade around in mecca that was full of idols, hence Muhammad the prophet of Islam's god is an idol. the Jewish community and the Christian community in his day rejected him as a prophet of the Judeo-Christian God, or God of Israel, and now Christians and Jews are the enemy of Muslims, which Muhammad declare in his day.

    and still is today despite what the media, and oil concerns and Muslim investments in western society would have you believe. Christians and Jews are treated with brutality in nation dominated by Muslims with a venomous hatred, that media and the rest who have interests that might be impeded if the Christian and the Jewish community was made aware of. just like the media that trys to make you aware of Trump did this or that that they want you to believe isn't good on a daily basis. its simply propaganda, to serve the agenda of those who are in charge of such things.

    the Koran is more of a propaganda instrument for the justification of Muslim rule (back then documentation was as good as it gets), where as the bible is a documentation of the relationship of a people and their God. and actually wasn't intended to be some document to rule the world with. it was simply a document to maintain a people in the Peaceful Presence of the Living God who is Creator and Judge of all things.

    the people who love the Almighty, want His Presence in the world with them, King David is an excellent example of that kind of love for one's Lord and Savoir, and spent the remainder of his years preparing for a permanent place to be made of the Presence of God. needless to say, the rest of the world that has no relationship with the Almighty don't seek for nor do they like the idea of God's Presence in the world. they either deny He exists, giving themselves the false sense of security that they have no one to answer to, but themselves. or they believe He is, but argue that God stays in Heaven and no one can know Him and leaves the world to man's judgement of what is good and evil. thus, what drives the world to continue step by step, year by year, to revolve around the issue of Israel.
     
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    Muhammed discovered God in a cave during a visitation from the angel Gabriel. Lots of the Bible patriarchs also had visitations.. Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Mary, Saul and so on.
     
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    King David was a scumbag, murderer, sexual pervert, adulterer, and generally an all-around bad person. Anyone who met him had a very bad day.

    A lot of theologians considered him to have been imaginary.
     
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    Why is God a frightened little rabbit that has to hide in a cave. He should come out into the world and show himself, if he existed, but since he doesn't he has to hide in a cave or on a mountain so that con men can claim that only they saw him. People are idiots.
     

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