Why has Science Become Politicized?

I am at a loss to understand how you could accept the fact that most climatologists agree that we are changing the climate yet somehow do not agree that the pending impact of these changes represent a danger to civilization. Do you own a map? Take a look at population centers across the globe that live close to sea level. I realize it may be a stretch for you but this simple logical progression is not a mystery to science or politicians or the people who live in threatened areas.

 

Evolution is real; the amount of evidence to support it is so vast, it can't be scientifically denied. How it happens is the theory. It's the same with gravity, by the way. Gravity is real; the amount of evidence to support it is so vast, it can't be scientifically denied. How gravity works is a theory.

 

Because one of those things is not like the other. A scientist agreeing climate change is man-made says absolutely nothing about how much said scientist thinks the climate is changing, or how much they believe it will affect the polar ice caps.

And, as a matter of record, I didn't say I don't find evidence that climate change is a serious threat compelling. I specifically said that the statistic at hand doesn't tell us anything beyond what it literally says, because scientists are very literal people.

 

Spoken like a theist!



Does the science of Medicine start at the Origin of Life?

Does the science of Chemistry start at the Origin of Life?

Does the science of Engineering start at the Origin of Life?

Does the science of Computers start at the Origin of Life?

Your ignorance of scientific disciplines is not my problem.

Theist science denial does not refute documented scientific knowledge.

Here is a link to children's primer on the important stages. There are plenty of scientific papers documenting each and every stage.

https://www.thoughtco.com/evolution-of-vertebrate-animals-4040937

Onus is entirely on you to prove that anything that I posted was wrong from an evolutionary point of view.

In other words you can't provide squat to support your allegation!

Got it!

Have a nice day!

 

Well Science is all bull sh!t anyway. Einstein proved that.

Today people are just using the bull sh!t on both sides of the aisle pro and against the global warming issue.

 

Please provide a credible nonpartisan source for that allegation.

 

So you are claiming that a warming planet does not increase polar ice melting even though we can observe glacial retreats and have the evidence to back it? It is a given that the climate is getting hotter and hotter every year. Scientists tend to agree that this rapid change in the average temperature of the earth is increasing. They also agree that it has been driven by the industrial age use of petrochemicals. Are you claiming that any of this is false? Are you claiming that glaciers are not retreating across the globe? Are you claiming that weather patterns are shifting dramatically creating events that we have not seen in ages?

 

Einstein proved that science was all bull ****? Why? Because he corrected Newton observations by doing more science? What kind of logic is this?

 

Science hasn't become politicized, but trashy liberals have attempted to associate their hoaxes and lies to 'science'...

 

@Woolley Bully, Einstein's many theories are cases of confusing the model with reality.

The professors are supposed to warn you about that in college freshman science.

Not everyone gets the message.

 

In answer to the question posed by the thread, this is the simple answer. Science has been politicized by radical left wing "scientist" with an agenda. Consensus that they spew, and the junk science they are trying to ram down everyones throat is not real science.

 

I'd reply but it would be a colossal waste of time. Anything I'd say would get a response, "No it's not; you're wrong; no it's not; you're wrong."

 

Why?

 

Your concession of your inane position is accepted.

 

Because if you cannot substantiate your bogus allegation it reflects poorly on your credibility.

 

It has always been politicized and will always be politicized. Everything about our society is.

 

I meant why waste my time doing your work. If you want to discredit my assertions, all of which are easily verified, get your Google out and have at it

 

Science progresses because it is self-critical and is constantly analyzing new data. It confers distinction upon innovation. Thus is progress achieved.

Religion, when it opposes science (usually because science contradicts some aspect of its unchanging dogma) transgresses into a realm where its immutable notions are antithetical. Innovation in religion is apostasy, and can result in being banished or stoned to death by some very upset folks.

For some rabid ideologues, politics is religion, and science can be very inconvenient for their mindset.

Consider the reasonable thesis that spewing hundreds of thousands of tonnes of industrial emissions into the atmosphere impacts the atmosphere. That has been scientifically established to the satisfaction of the global community of advanced nations.

There are ideologues who become hysterical when scientific reality impedes their sacred cow of unbridled free-market capitalism, and posits the global problem for which the reasonable solution is coordinated government regulation in the interests of the planet and its inhabitants.

Such practical, knowledge-based measures are sacrilegious under their doctrinaire credo, and so they rage against the incompatible truths of blasphemous science.

 

Let us all ask the climate deniers to make their case using science and peer reviewed experts. We are not going to accept fake science. Unless we have an expert among us, we must accept the conclusions of experts. If your expert is not qualified to remark on this topic, explain why we should listen to them in the face of so much opposition from other experts. You might have a Newton or Einstein or Galileo to help you, prove it or shut the f up.

 

Plenty of 'experts' but the true believers wish to believe alarmism over science. If you believe a railroad engineer is qualified (the now disgraced previous head of the IPCC) then you are a true believer.

 

I don't know why you are surprised.

The right has a terrible track-record in accepting proven Scientific facts. The right has denied Evolution, that Asbestos was bad for health, as well as smoking, that HIV causes AIDs, they denied scientific evidence that discarded any relation between vaccination and autism, ... and, of course, the science behind AGW.

But you can't blame the religious right for that.

The reason Science has become politicized is simple: whenever there is a scientific discovery that a certain interest group (religious or Corporate) would prefer were not real, they can count on the right to deny the Science.

They can't count on the left to do that. It just wouldn't work.

 

Science is not politicized. Science denial is politicized.

 

That's the colloquial definition of "Theory". In Science Theory is basicallyi another word for "Explanation"

 

And the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki can testify to it, amirite?