France deserves to fall .....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Channe, May 6, 2017.

  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they go with the globalist Macron. If he wins, I have no sympathy for anything that happens to anyone who voted for him - be at the hands of 'migrants' or other violent un-assimilating entities.

    When you vote for wolves to enter your homes, expect no sympathy from the logical world. I do not wish for harm on anyone, but I don't have to feel bad when you literally welcome the violence to your own country.
     
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  2. Lesh

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    So you prefer the Russian backed fascist?
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    look, you completely have drank the globalist kool aid and are believing their lies of Russia influencing the elections.
    that's your problem, but nationalism is the only salvation for humanity.
     
  4. Lesh

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    You're falling for the BS that Russia is a benign friend. They aren't.

    Of course Putin wants his rivals looking inward...so he can expand Russia's influence
     
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    But if La Pen wins, France might leave the EU, which would have many economic repercussions.

    But isn't it rather strong words to assume that migrants are already violent un-assimilating entities? Please tell me your views on this. I am not exactly well versed in French politics. I do know about the Paris attack, but isn't it a rather hardline stance to assume that to bring in any migrant whatsoever is to court disaster? But then again, I am uncertain exactly what Macron intends to do; does he intend to welcome all migrants without any regulation whatsoever and without any safeguards? I am very curious; I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter :)
     
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    But but... the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back Mr. Romney
     
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    The Russian picture was considerably different with Medvedev in power
     
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    Keep telling yourself that
     
  10. Lesh

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    Were they hacking elections back then?

    Were they bombing Syria?

    Annexed Crimea?

    Invaded Ukraine?

    No?

    All of that happened when Putin came back into power?

    I thought so
     
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    Look, these threats aren't mutually exclusive. They ARE BOTH problems the western world has to deal with. The thing is one is easier to solve than the other. But bickering about who is or isn't a threat won't get anything done. Russians and radical migrants are both threats to us, got it? good.
     
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    :deadhorse:<--- Russia is the devil.

    To quote The Obama, 1984 called, it wants its cold war back
     
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    Russia, like the EU, is trying to strengthen its position in Europe. Do you think the EU targets ex-Soviet bloc countries with association agreements and absorption into the NATO defense pact?

    I'll give you a hint: the Northern European Plain is the route to Moscow.

    Stop viewing some hegemons as good and some as bad. They are all amoral and seek power and security and little more.
     
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    And which side of that are WE on?

    You might want to rethink your support for an ever strengthening Russia
     
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    Not the kind of nationalism that LePen is going for. "Civic Nationalism" is a joke. Its goal is to try and assimilate migrants instead of shipping them out. Civic nationalists would call baby Muhammad a Frenchman if he was born in France, even if he is not one of the European tribes that existed in Europe for thousands of years. LePen is giving people hope that there is still a political solution in Europe, but there isn't.

    The only hope is for things to get worse, the system collapses, the ones who are doing this to Europe will lose their power, and then things could be rebuilt.
     
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    However the French vote it is their country. They have to live with the consequences whether good or bad for them.
     
  18. Lesh

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    La Pen is a xenophobic fascist and an opportunist
     
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    We get it-anyone you don't like is a xenophobic racist-its subtle but its there.

    One thing we can be sure of-Macron with his secret Cayman bank account IS NOT an opportunist.
     
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    France, as is all of the continent and the UK are the walking dead. There's nothing they can do except delay the inevitable. La Pen might slow the death spiral for a few years, but the cancer is already terminal and there's nothing they can do about it.
     
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    Nationalism is second only to religion as an excuse for genocide.
    Two world wars from nationalism should be enough.
    Nationalism is stupid - unless you are an immigrant, your country is an accident of birth - you didn't pick it.
     
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    Most of the people on the board attacking France have never been there.
     
  23. Lesh

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    Nope...only the fascist xenophobic opportunists..like La Pen
     
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    How were those two world wars about nationalism? The first world war was the result of peace treaties and tensions arising between nations not respecting national borders. Austria hungary attacked Serbia because that archduke dude went to visit, and a lot of serb nationalists didn't like the archduke, who was decidedly NOT a nationalist. He was an expansionist who annexed serbia.

    How about the second world war? The national socialists have national in their name, but attacking poland isn't exactly nationalist, now is it? That is also expansionist.
     
  25. Belch

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    I watched every pink panther movie, so I speak with authority on the subject of france.
     
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