How to Replace Oil

In order to learn about this subject, a great deal of reading is required. I have been studying and or working on this issue for over ten years. So drive-by shootings and pot shots should be considered just that. Unless a person dedicates a great deal of time to learning about this subject, their opinion is meaningless.

Here is the bottom line: There is only one alternative to petroleum that can not only completely replace it - providing all the same qualities and functionality necessary to replace oil - but is also manageable at scale. No other options come close. Currently the alternative fuels produced are running at $5-$10 a gallon the last I checked; that is down from $30-$50 a gallon when I first started learning about this. It is only a matter of development cost. We know it will work. In fact, we have known this since the 80s. But the low cost of crude made the exploitation of this completely renewable resource, impractical.

This is in fact what produced most of the oil we have today. We once thought of oil as a byproduct of animal life. But there was a problem with mass. There simply weren't enough animals to account for the mass of crude known to exist or have existed. But there was enough algae.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/39974796/Algae_in_biofuel_production_.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1494117881&Signature=7x/7WmwkanKC/ZSIQBxEshnaUVU=&response-content-disposition=inline; filename=Use_of_algae_as_biofuel_sources.pdf

 

Algae can be used to produce biodiesel, ethanol and gasoline replacements. as well as hydrogen.

Algae fuels were tested in a Boeing 737 and outperformed standard aviation fuel.

 

Reminds me of Malthusian theory.

It was made up hundreds of years ago, it been wrong every time. Humans engineer and discover new ways to extract energy.

Don't believe in Malthusian... will hurt your brain.

 

Not worth the trouble.

 

Save the earth with pond scum. How quaint.

 

Oil will not be replaced any time soon. Even Obama sold out to big oil during his first term at a time when we should have been investing heavily in, "Hydrogen."

Hydrogen has almost no chemical byproduct residue when it fires, so it is about as clean as it gets. And no CO2 and water vapor.

And Hydrogen can be produced with generators using a 13% re-intrusion system after separating salt water.

Salt residue, from using sea water, can be deposited in Utah where top layer salt residue is already in abundance.

And vehicles run on Hydrogen, if Hydrogen would be distributed in aluminum canisters, would cost consumers an estimated $4.85 per hundred miles of open road travel.

 

No seriously believes oil is the by-product of animal life. Oil/coal is the by-product of carboniferous ferns that grew abundantly during certain periods in Earth's geological development.

You'll never achieve the economy of scale necessary to produce enough petro-chemicals with algae.

The modeled facility consists of 5,000 acres (approximately 2,020 hectares) of production pond cultivation area with a total
facility footprint of 7,600 acres (3,075 hectares) and achieves an annual biomass product yield of 38 U.S . ton/cultivation acre/year.

http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy16osti/64772.pdf

 

Hydrogen is also notoriously difficult to store without significant boil off over a relatively short time.

IIRC NASA routinely figures that about 15% of the hydrogen in a heavily insulated spacecraft tank will be gone before it can be used as fuel.

Imagine how people would react if out of every 20 gallon tank of gasoline, three gallons were (literally) gone with the wind every time.

 

Someone should invent a device to extract it from Washington.

 

Hydrogen takes a lot of energy to produce.
Water is a product of hydrogen combustion

 

Beats the heck out of more oil spills in the Gulf and Alaska. Trump wants more offshore drilling. More "big government" for this one. It takes so much regulation, and government involvement, once a spill occurs. The Gas Overconsumption Party strikes again.

 

Saudi Arabia was a sea for millions of years... No ferns.

 

HYSOLAR is the name of a long-term German-Saudi Arabian cooperative programme for research, development and demonstration of solar hydrogen production as well as utilization of hydrogen as an energy carrier. The programme was started in 1986. Research institutions and universities in both countries are participating.

The first phase of HYSOLAR (Ia and Ib), which ended in 1991, focused mainly on investigation, test and improvement of hydrogen production technologies. The participants have reported on their work in more than 90 scientific publications. This paper briefly reviews the most important results and addresses the still open questions and problems. An outlook into the programme's second phase contents, where more emphasis is laid on hydrogen utilization technologies, is also included.
Hysolar: an overview on the German-Saudi Arabian programme on solar hydrogen. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public...man-Saudi_Arabian_programme_on_solar_hydrogen [accessed May 7, 2017].

https://www.researchgate.net/public...man-Saudi_Arabian_programme_on_solar_hydrogen

 

Saudi Arabia was apart of the Supercontinent, 300 million years ago.

 

Pangea? I suppose so.. but I am talking about 60 million years ago.

 

Oil usage would be a lot lower if all the left wingers that rail against it would sell their cars, and shut off the gas or oil that heats their houses.

But of course they wont. They want to interfere with the life of other people.

 

Exploit, & perfect everything.

 

Leave him alone guys, he's been 'researching this for ten years' and your just doing' drive by's'. Pfffffffffffffff

 

Oh but remember. Rich liberals (like Al Gore) buy carbon credits!!!!

In other words they pay for the right to pollute by giving money to people who were not polluting in the first place.

 

I cycled 10 miles today, HWGA, how about you?

Can't open website. it says "file expired".

 

batteries probably ran down....

 

Actually I bicycled 90 miles in the last three days, and ran errands. How many libs here that hate oil can say that.

BTW I cycle approx 2500 miles a year, and this year I will be 79.

 

You realize that what you are asking for would crash the nation...oh...you're just talking. You don't actually care

 

New materials will fix that problem. Materials science is a whole new world compared to just a decade ago. But for now it is a problem.

 

The standard is 5000 gallons of fuel produced per acre per year. Beyond that, it doesn't require landmass. In fact it appears to make the most sense to farm algae in the ocean.

With hybridization and genetic engineering, it is hoped that yields as high as 7000-10,000 gallons per acre-year are achievable at equatorial latitudes. In fact the galaxies of spent oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico could easily be converted to production facilities for ocean algae farming.

Do the math. This is achievable with less acreage dedicated to oil production, than we have now for corn [for all purposes, ie. all corn].

For comparison, corn produces about a net 100 gallons of ethanol per acre-year, at best. Algae is at least 50 times better.

The energy efficiency of the production and processing are the biggest challenges. But we have made vast improvements over the last decade with many more coming almost daily. And there are a few things I've figured out other people haven't yet. The point being, this is manageable.