Here is what republicans should do about Obama care.

Republicans should just sit back until there is a total collapse of obamacare. Several states now have no provider, and more will come. When there is a total collapse, let fool democrats like Schumer come begging hat in hand to republicans to do something.

 

We all know the media will blame Republicans and Democrat puppets will all chime in with the narrative the media gives them, and Republicans will cave. History keeps repeating itself. The only thing we can hope for is that Repblicans realize Americans have gotten smarter than they were when Gruber called Democrat voters morons.

 

The RP could call for replacing the entire massive corrupt government controlled healthcare structure with large vested healthcare accounts to empower the people, AKA voters, to control/manage their own healthcare.

But who would pay off the politicians for doing that?

 

That's been the plan all along. They have sat back for years saying "See what a failure it is" but it's gotten to the point that they own it now. IMO go ahead, keep it up. It will/should work for Dems in the upcoming elections.

 

Instead of a p.ss.ng contest to see who can score the most points any party who really cared about the issue would put the health and well being of all Americans first and try to fix our heath care. Both programs have flaws.

 

Ah yes. The Republican "let 'em die" health care plan.

I guess what you do depends, really, on what you want to accomplish.

If your goal is to wipe away everything accomplished during the Obama administration then just keep on keeping on. Sure, the Republicans can destroy the ACA but, it'll die on their watch and, with no ability to even get a bill through their own caucus, much less a viable alternative, well...However hard you try you can't blame the Democratic party for Republican failures.

If your goal is to get a big tax cuts for the Adelson's of the world, doubtful you'll get that through Congress and, if you do, see above.

If your goal is to make the system better there are plenty of things to be done. Stop destabilizing the exchanges, in states where there are fewer than two insurers allow people to buy into Medicare, setup a process for regulating health insurance nationwide so policies can be sold across state lines, require providers who accept ACA subsidized insurance and Medicare/Medicaid to post publicly prices for all services and products provided.

I'm sure there are other alternatives but it does depend upon your intent.

 

I agree

 

Woah that is a lot of complaining.

You are basically saying "If you don't do it my way you are wanting to kill people!"

Which is insanely ridiculous violent political rhetoric, exactly what our biggest problem in the country now.

There are plenty of people who cannot afford the new insanely high deductibles of the ACA, should people say "The ACS wants to kill people!"

That is exactly what youa re doing

 

Now that the pantywaists have demonstrated their legislative impotence (despite their seven years of practice and preparation and control of Executive, Senate, and House) in coming up with a viable substitute for their much-maligned nationalized RomneyCare (The 17% of Americans that approve of their latest stinker may all need care) it's time to dump the ideological dogma and progress to the proven, pragmatic paradigm provided by all advanced nations where everyone is covered at about half the cost.

Trump could then truthfully claim that he had actually fulfilled a campaign promise -

It'll be "something terrific"
that covers "everybody!"​

 

What exactly did I complain about?

I merely pointed out that there are alternative depending upon your goals.

Now if you cannot look at a reasonable evaluation of the fact on the ground without whining about being picked on then my "complaining" is not your problem.

 

That the Republican Health care plan is a "let 'em die" health care plan"

Then you complained about Republicans....

Then you complained about taxes....

Then worst of all the comment "However hard you try you can't blame the Democratic party for Republican failures."

What? How?

The ACA was 100% a Democratic invention, literally 0% Republican. I know you are going to try to switch the story by saying that since the Republicans haven't passed a bill they now "own the D" bill but that thinking is seriously insane.

Democrats made this, not Republicans.

When the Republicans make a bill THEN you can attack it. But for now, American Health care is 100000% Democratic and it is failing miserably

 

Or...they could put out a decent plan, instead of the crap sandwich that both the House and Senate offered.

The left still owns the media so any thought that the collapse of Obamacare will hurt the Democrats should be banished. Republicans will get the blame and they should act accordingly by putting out a good plan.

 

Doing something good for the American people is never the objective of the Washington political class.

“[T]he running existential contradictions of D.C., a place where “authenticity and fantasy are close companions”, as the Washington Post’s Henry Allen once wrote. It misses that the city, far from being hopelessly divided, is in fact hopelessly interconnected. It misses the degree to which New Media has democratized the political conversation while accentuating Washington's insular, myopic, and self loving tendencies. It misses, most of all, a full examination of how Washington may not serve the country well but has, in fact, worked splendidly for Washington itself– A city of beautifully busy people constantly writing the story of their own lives.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 10.

 

Well that's just another argument that the OP's plan of sitting back and doing nothing won't work.

 

Actually, for those with Repnesia, the ACA is a 100% REPUBLICAN bill. It is the plan pushed by Republicans right up until Obama said "OK." This is simply a fact.

A plan that takes health care away from 20-25 MILLION people? What else can you call it but the "let 'em die" plan.
If the Senate bill passes Adelson will stand to get $40 MILLION in health care relief. A simple fact. Deny care to the poor so the rich can get tax cuts. Again, a simple fact.

Now I do note there's absolutely nothing in your response about fixing the problem. You speak only to passing the blame. So who is it that's complaining?

 

The Republicans didn't even need to include the Democrats in the discussion, and yet even though they have a majority in both houses of Congress and the Presidency they can't pass a bill. When will they be able to govern effectively?

 

Why don't the democrats work with Donald Trump to fix what's wrong with Obamacare currently? For real, this is why people are pissed off at both parties, because they refuse to talk to each other. At least in Reagans area, everyone talked to one another on both sides.

 

It was a mistake for Pelosi and Reid to pass a 100% partisan HC bill, I wish the gop would be better than them and include dems in the talk. because we all know they are partisan hacks.

 

Listen, I'm Republican, but you have to admit that their plan is bonkers. Not to say Obamacare is good. However, letting it alone is possibly the absolute worst thing you can do. We're trying to help people, not punish them; it's the people's right to claim that they do not like something lawmakers created. In America, we don't serve politicians, they serve us. And if the people make their decision, then that's their decision. No one likes Obamacare, no one likes the RP, they want a new plan. Politicians have their orders, they just have to get around to fulfilling them.

 

How can that be, if republicans do nothing, everyone is still on obamacare, that is until it totally fails.

 

It probably would have been better to let ObamaCare implode, but once the DP decided to touch it .... The RP should try very hard to achieve at at least some minimal reform, but don't count on it. Complex legislation is primarily a fundraising tool.

 

Couldn't agree more with the idea! Soon as it takes the final plunge and the letters go out to all the OBerrycare customers informing them the coverage they have now will no longer be available in 201? and here is the contact number for COBRA, sorry for any inconvenience this may have causes!

 

Obamacare was designed to fail, so they could scrap it and implement a more socialist agenda.

 

It would score points if Republicans were more proactive. I'm not a big fan of the FIRE Economy (Finance, Insurance & Real Estate).
I submit that over-Capitalization in the FIRE Economy is one reason why GDP growth is so dismal in the US.

You could increase the HI Payroll Tax from 2.9% to 26% and cover all Americans under Medicare, while paying 100% of costs, instead of 80% of costs. Yes, the "health insurance" industry would significantly down-size, but not be eliminated (since dental, vision and hearing would still require insurance). What would investors do? Investors would simply sell-off their stocks in "health insurance" and re-invest that money in other sectors of the economy, spurring growth, including hiring. Yes, about 50% of the people in the "health insurance" industry would lose their jobs, but many would be absorbed by the expanded MACs (Medicare Administrative Contractors), which process Medicare claims.

It's an inevitable foregone conclusion that should the Democrats ever gain control of Congress and the Presidency, they will ram through a single-payer plan, so it would be better for Republicans to develop something and take credit for it.

No, it was not a 100% Republican bill and that's a fact.

 

Well if that's the case, it's succeed spectacularly. The independent insurance market is crashing, and the GOP's inability to fix it makes it pretty easy to for the Dems to run on single payer in 2018 and 2020.