The New Left's Fake Patriotism

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Nativist trumpery tries to pass itself off as uber-patriotism, but racists - such as the Trump fanatics at the neo-nazi Daily Stormer - do not speak for all Trumpies.

    Not every Trump fanatic thinks or behaves in such a blatantly foul, unAmerican manner, and to generalize is to dishonestly distort.


     
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    I was running with the opening he gave me ;)
     
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    Once again, I am not denying results of polls. But, yes, you are correct that some deny the ones they don't agree with. I remember the few times a poll showed Trump would win, the left here went crazy saying he had NO chance to win. Well, we see what happened. The people spoke (not Russia). We will soon see if these current polls truly reflect what people really feel.

    Sometimes people don't see what is right in front of them. Even when it is written in black and white. Rose colored glasses, or biases, tend to make one think they know better than someone who is not like them. It happens quite frequently and one can see it if they only look.
     
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    The Right only cares about the flag.

    The Left cares about the people.
     
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    Are you sure?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we fight to protect the Medicaid expansion, you guys fight to end it.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If welfare helped people, why are the number of people on welfare increasing instead of decreasing.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    false.

    the number of people on public assistance is decreasing

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32760.pdf

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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Hmm.. Ok. So when you support illegal immigration are you also supporting the human trafficking/slavery that comes with it? If not, why?
     
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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...trump/trump-43-million-americans-food-stamps/

    A report by the Food Research & Action Center, a hunger and nutrition advocacy group, applauded the 43 million figure in April as the lowest level of participants since October 2010. From April 2015 to April 2016, participation is down 1.9 million participants.
     
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    LOL!!!!

    you keep making up FAKE NEWS

    I don't support illegal immigration.

    But Trump just chose to allow folks brought to the USA illegally as kids, to stay in the USA.

    :)
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL - Awesome. :beer:

    Remember this hero of the "anti-war" Faketriot Left?

    [​IMG]

    "Progressives" were all too happy to spread his lurid tales of the atrocities that him and his fellow soldiers committed in Iraq...

    The War the Media is Not Reporting — An Iraqi Veteran Speaks Out
    SocialistAlternative.org
    https://web.archive.org/web/2006052...listalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

    ...until it was discovered that this Wannabe Blue Falcon was never a soldier.

    But there's a happy ending to this sordid tale. Milbloggers started running a stolen valor tournament that was named after him:

    LMFAO..."Ballduster McSoulpatch"...

    The 2011 "Jesse MacBeth" Stolen Valor Tournament

    Special Ops Regional
    http://burnpit.us/2011/09/2011-jesse-macbeth-stolen-valor-tournament

    :lol:
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you've got the Gulags and Guillotines to prove it...
     
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    That's a unique theory that defies logic.
     
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    You've constructed a difficult narrative to prove; here's what we know:

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-in-the-2016-election/?utm_term=.08bb5c8f7179

    How do we quantify that interference and measure its effectiveness? I don't know.

    But the investigation into these things isn't over yet; we might not know the full story for years.

    But we do know Russia intervened on the side of Trump; this week we learned for sure that the Trump campaign was aware of Russian support all the way back before the Convention.
     
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    Through most of the campaign, very, very few of any political persuasion thought he could win. I don't know who your "left" is that you say went crazy.

    "The people" preferred Clinton by 2.9 million votes.

    Of course, it's impossible to calculate the extent to which Putin's meddling on behalf of Trump and Comey's evoking Weiner's irrelevant computer at a critical stage impacted the results.

    I have a natural affinity for my own opinion like everyone else. That does not compel me to dismiss a consensus of reputable public surveys when I don't personally concur.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
     
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    It defies logic if you look at the political spectrum in a linear fashion, Left to Right.

    However, if you look at it in a circular fashion where the authoritarian Left and Right meet at one of the poles it makes perfect sense.
     
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    The New Left's Fake Patriotism

    This is how the extremist right has been demonizing the liberals for the last 37 years. They've been using false propaganda to make the words LEFT and LIBERAL dirty words. This is the same tactics that the Nazis used against the Jews. And it has emboldened the hate groups like the
    KU KLX KLAN. The KKK held a rally in Charlottesville Virginia last week end.
     
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    It's so funny to see the Star Spangled Banner sung at Democratic conventions. The anquish displayed by all of the faces is truly priceless. It's like they're being forced to eat two week old liver and onions.
     
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    What was really funny was how there were none at the DNC convention this year, until Trump tweeted about it.

    There were plenty of Mexican and PLO flags though.
     
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    The unemployable certainly preferred Clinton.

    Gonna get em a new phone and Obama's gonna pay my 'lectricity!
     
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    They'd run over the terrorist protestor blocking the highway and say something like 'let that be a lesson to the rest of you' and then flounce off gayly to the next freedom of speech rally in the hopes of inciting some violence.
     

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