Time for plan B on obamacare

And it probably would have mostly. Except that Republicans cut off the reimbursements back to the providers. Causing them to pull out of the exchanges. Thus, now, the sky is falling.

 

Oh come now, that's not even worthy spin there bud! You really need to step up your game, even the leftist on this site are like to be shaking their head at this post LMFAO

 

So these guys' "Plan B" (Which is actually something more like Plan ZZ version 6 -as they ran out of letters)
1- Undermine, torpedo, hijack and Sabotage Obamacare and then blame it on the Democrats.
2- When Democrats see Americans hurting, then they will "beg" Republicans.
3- Republicans will look over their shoulder and say something like: "Let them eat Cake!"
4- Keep the American people hostage for as long as necessary. Some may die, but it's for the "Greater Good"
5- Just sit back and wait until Democrats have no choice but to give Republicans the only thing they actually want out of all of this: tax breaks for the rich.

Great plan! What could go wrong?

 

How many people will die in the streets before the idiots Republicans will work together to get anything done? They are nothing but a bunch of idiotic obstructionists who are now obstructing themselves from getting anything done. It's nice to know you support a bunch of clowns.

 

Not keeping up with the news today?

 

That's what they do....

 

What it seems to all boil down to is covering per-exsiting conditions, and making the math work.

Democrats seem to want: Single payer plan covers everyone with optional private coverage that covers everything else.

Trumpers seem to want: The total disaster we had before the ACA.

Republicans seem to want: A free market approach that can not turn anyone away that has a preexisting condition with such business subsidized by tax payer money, in some obtuse way.

That is what I gather at the moment.

 

And it would have if the GOP didn't screw with the funding

 

"Under the provision, which is still in effect, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) could no longer tap other accounts — such as its overall appropriations or its Medicare funding — to fund the risk corridors program."
The senator and dozens of other Republicans are seeking to renew the policy rider — or repeal risk corridors altogether — in the year-end budget bill that Congress must pass by Dec. 11 to avoid a government shutdown.

“So far, we’ve succeeded in stopping the Obama administration from bailing out healthcare companies under ObamaCare, and it’s critical that Congress once again stand with taxpayers to stop any taxpayer bailout of health insurers from happening,” Rubio wrote in a letter to GOP leaders of both chambers on Tuesday."
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/261244-rubio-budget-win-is-dealing-heavy-blow-to-obamacare

 

Actually democrats do support fixing Obamacare but the Republicans just want to make Republican proposals and don't want bipartisan compromise. If you let Obamacare fail then a lot of people are going to be hurt. It makes more sense to try to fix the problems with Obamacare in a bipartisan way.

 

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Vroom, vroom, vroom!
All aboard the GOP Juggernaut!

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ROAD RAGE WHILE GOING NOWHERE






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If you like your Obamacare you can keep your Obamacare, we have pass this thing so we can see what's in it. Nobody's forgetting who trashed the best healthcare in the world. Can't blame this one on the Republicans and it gets much much worse, we will never have what we had before Obama. Obamacare will die and be replaced with something nobody can afford with huge deductibles. How's that for Hope and Change? in the mean time Obama's on a permanent vacation financed in a big way by the taxpayer.

 

So you're pretending that healthcare was just great prior to the ACA?

Obamacare will die(actually it will be intentionally killed by the GOP) and be replaced with something nobody can afford with huge deductibles.

 

Obamacare is a hot potato Republicans put their hands on, and now its setting those same Republicans on fire. To let it crash and burn would cause Republicans to crash and burn as well, since they are in power. Which would actually work for Democrats, because then the failure of repealing and replace will fall on Trump and Republicans, and make a case why capitalists at insurance companies shouldn't be in charge of healthcare.

 

How about passing a bill outlawing Obamacare and prohibiting the government from any participation in healthcare (other than medicare and medicaid). Let US buy our own health insurance across State lines, let us join a health co-op in our area and pay $50 a month for total 24/7 base care. (broken bones, check ups, stitches, colds, flu...etc.). Catastrophic health insurance would be readily available for those ER visits and more serious health problems. How about a health savings account...tax free? That is ONE thing the government can do for US that keeps their hooks off our $$$$. In the meantime, the bureaucracy can try to figure out the medicaid and medicare mess. Seriously though, the free market would take over and medicaid and medicare would become all but obsolete.

 

And 30 million people will loose heatlhcare (if not more)and everyone's premiums will skyrocket

 

No...In fact there would be more money for medicare and medicaid. That being said, those at the low end of earning power could still access their doctor 24/7 for $10 to $100 per month for everything except catastrophic care for which there would be insurance. I would anticipate that the young would not need the catastrophic insurance but would pay monthly for typical physician care. Outlawing Obamacare would take a huge economic burden off US leaving more money to take care of the needy (medicaid) and the elderly (medicare). Any other solution just punishes them.

 

How about a tweet that Obama care has been repealed. All followers would believe it. PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

 

Pretending? Absolute best healthcare in the world this is a demonstrable fact. All of the best MDs in the world were educated here. The best hospitals in the world are here in the US. Most innovative country in the world of medical science? The US. Prior to Obamacare best access to the best healthcare in the world. Now it's complete crap on par with what you would expect in the UK or Canada. Don't start singing their socialist medicine praises, I lived in UK and have family in Canada they used to come here if they needed care but no more, there's no point. Yes the healthcare in the US before Obamacare was the absolute best on the planet.

 

Plan A:

Promise a healthcare plan that will leave fewer uncovered, lower premiums, and make no cuts to medicaid and medicare.. then put forth a healthcare plan that according to your own budget office's estimates results in more than 20 million people losing coverage, higher premiums, and budget cuts to both medicaid and medicare.

Plan B:

Advocate disassembling funds for current healthcare system, and then blame the Democrats and "disloyal" Republicans.

 

Bullshit. Repeal ACA and poof...Medicaid loses ALL the expansion dollars. That's what...800 Billion?

 

What funding? Like subsidizing the insurers to stay in the exchanges and compensate their losses! Think real hard Lesh I know it may hurt a bit, but that's not paying for itself!

 

Nah, with the right media campaign the name alone "Obamacare" will channel the blame and the history behind the behind it will lay blame solely on the Democrats! The RNC will simply play stockpiled video of the Democrats claiming how bigly the ACA is performing while the rest of the world including the insurers were bailing from exchanges because of lack if insolvency

Good luck with your propaganda campaign though!

 

The President is correct: it's pretty disappointing that the people who have been screeching about repealing this brilliant piece of legislation aren't able to see their way to do what they said they would do.

Best tweets on the subject come from Charlie Daniels:

OK the congress and senate we have can't work together and have proven it. solution - replace them all until we find people who can​

The senate is not a political body, its a kindergarten class​

No. What Republicans need is to grow a pair and get rid of this POS that's costing people too much money and not doing anyone any good.

I believe Dems should continue to tell us how wonderful Obamacare is. The Repubs should move on to more pressing issues, even as they continue to report on the rising costs and diminished care provided by Obama's centerpiece legislation.

 

I repeat. . . . But they will continue to do EVERYTHING to make Obamacare fail for political purposes. . . . Withholding funding, fighting Medicaid expansion, boycotting the mandate, and extremely negative propaganda since even before its implementation.

They want Obama's name off the legislation, and they are seeking to strengthen corporate control over government; their apathy for their constituents is illustrated by the provisions promoted in their "MEAN" plans. . . . DRAIN THE SWAMP???. . . . Yeah, sure. . . .