Benedict Arnold John McCain did it again!

I don't know what page you were visiting. I prefer realclearpolitics because they tend to average polling from both right-wing and left-wing sources and are very non-partians. They also get quoted a lot by the media. At the very end they said that Hillary had 204, 171 were tossups, and 164 were for Trump. If you were to make wild guesses about the tossups it would have been 272 for Hillary and 268 for Trump which is just too close to call.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html

 

Perhaps..but not sure given the fact he has always held a grudge against Trump. I wish they would talk more about the long term effects of keeping Obamacare which most Americans including myself are not privy to. According to many who have been crunching the numbers that I consider to be truthful, they're saying Obamacare is imploding and will continue to cripple the economy the longer it's enforced. The aging population and caring for illegals will be disastrous. This is all the more reason to deport those here illegally who are hitting the emergency rooms all on the American tax payers. If Obamacare can be fixed to keep that from happening then by all means do that. But again those economists who have been watching all this enfold who are able to analyze what the future will likely entail, are very doubtful unless more serious changes are made. All I know is the last thing the U.S. should do is kick the can down the road until it's too late to fix anything and we become another totally depleted society like that of Venezuela.

 

This was McCain's ongoing bitterness against Republicans for not becoming president and bitterness against President Trump who did.

Arizona seniors are getting smashed by ObamaCare. He doesn't care about those people. McCain and Graham became the go-to Republicans by the MSM any time they wanted to quote a Republican attacking President Trump or the Republicans.

It is significant of McCain's actual conduct for the vote. He entered the Senate and literally made a beeline to Chuck Schumer and literally gave Schumer a big hug.

 

Schumer the snake? No one in their right mind would do that unless they're in bed with that lousy piece of crap.

 

Kicking the can down the road is a long time honored position of those in Washington. Obamacare has been slowly imploding for a couple of years or more as more and more insurance companies pull out of it. It won't be but a couple years when some states won't have any insurance companies and others just one. Without a major overhaul with has to include more revenue going into Obamacare, taxes if you like it will fail.

The problem is the AHCA was far worst than the ACA which all of a sudden made the ACA popular. It wasn't until the Republicans introduced the AHCA. I've been saying the best thing to do on healthcare this year is nothing. Drop it completely. Wait until March or so of next year and let's look at how the ACA is looking. Then go from there. That would put the focus back on the ACA with all it flaws, faults and shortcomings which probably includes it imploding on its own.

As for McCain, I don't blame him for holding a grudge. I have the same grudge against Trump. When Trump said basically that our POW's were bad soldiers because they got caught, he lost me completely.

 

I don't think anyone thought Trump's comment was okay. Diplomacy has never been his forte. I'm guessing something McCain said during the campaign angered him and in pure Trump fashion he spewed something that I'm sure he wishes he could take back. Trump has never been able to roll off personal attacks. But that said, McCain needs to move past that for the sake of America. He needs to get over the "WAAAA he hurt my feelings" mentality and do what's best for the country, his kids, grandchildren, and all generations to come.

 

Perhaps McCain is like me. I am anti-AHCA and anti-ACA. As I told MMC, the idea was to replace Obamacare with a better plan. The AHCA, repeal and replace, repeal only are worst than the ACA. If I can be anti-both, why not McCain and other senators? Come up with a better plan, a better bill, one that improves healthcare and I'm on board and I suspect McCain would be too.

Trump needs a tougher political skin ala Reagan. Reagan knew when to let things or what people said just roll off his back and never took it personally. Trump takes everything personally and create a ton of needless feuds. If I were a senator I would first be voting on any issue for what was best for the people of my state, then America and only then for what the president or my political party wanted. I wouldn't be voting against the wants and wishes of the folks back home regardless of whom was president or of what political party. My philosophy.

Being a member of the tiny Reform Party, I never have to worry about becoming a senator and putting that philosophy to the test.

 

Yes, imagine John McCain standing up for honesty and the American people instead of going along with McConnel's various plans to transfer more money from ordinary Americans to rich people. McCain just doesn't seem to understand that the Senate exists for the purpose of making the very rich even richer. He betrayed his party's principles in favor of the undeserving middle and working classes. The sooner that guy is out of there and someone is put in his place who realizes that his duty is to serve the country's economic elite, the better off rich people will be.

 

Excuse me

Are you saying ObamaCare is better than No ObamaCare for middle and working classes.

No ObamaCare is best for middle and working class people because they will not be paying the "welfare health care tax" for those who can't afford the full price, saddled on premiums.
Middle and Working Class people were better off before ObamaCare when those who wanted to do so purchased a private plan or received health care insurance from their employment.

McCain blew it. A lack of respect for all but 2 of his party in the Senate.
A petulant, jealous move against the presidency he wished for so dearly.
Worse part of the McCain legacy except for making Palin known to the world.

Moi

r > g

Stop Creeping ism
They upload here as if "us".
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

The system is very similar to what was imposed on the Russians by the Bolsheviks. The intent then was to put the world under a communist state owned system by taking over Moscow, while today it will be a corporate owned system under the hegemony of Washington. They are both evil, because those who conceived are evil... being devoid of conscience.

But they are faced with a formidable adversary, and they will not succeed, like the Soviet Union did not succeed. Give it up George.

 

Trump has faults like everyone else does. He's brash and in your face and not a polished politician with smooth rhetoric like Obama. But here's the thing I'd take him any day over Obama because Trump really wants to do what's best for this country.

Even for all of Obama's likeability he turned out to be the most back stabbing two faced racist traitors this country has ever known. I voted for him but only his first term because I believed his BS and about six months in and seeing what a horrible person he was and how he was deliberately trying to divide and ruin this nation which was clearly obvious in EVERYTHING he did, I switched sides to the republican party. And never regretted that decision especially when seeing Hillary the corrupt was waiting in the wings to take over where Obama left off. Guess I should thank those two though because since them, I've become an avid researcher of politics so they actually helped me learn what a horrible socialistic Marxist system they were pushing that was ruining the country.

 

I am continually shocked, surprised and dismayed that so many Republicans can't seem to get beyond attacking Obamacare for its shortcomings yet never offer a viable, functional healthcare system for America that actually works. It would be soooo much simpler to fix what's wrong with Obamacare than go back to ground zero and redesign the entire system from scratch--which by the way, Republicans have demonstrated time and again they're not capable of doing.

 

I didn't want either one to become president, hence my third party vote. My number one issue has always been the debt. Everyone knows the Democrats just tax and spend, then spend some more and keep spending running up the debt. The Republicans talk a good game with no action which is in a way, worst. Both parties spend like there is no tomorrow, it is what they spend on that differs.

I had no beef against Obama outside of him adding 10 trillion to the national debt. I opposed the ACA and still do. But I expect something better to replace it. I opposed Obama in Libya, mainly because he skirted congress, didn't get their authorization. But overall, the Obama administration was more a ho hum administration and Obama a below average president. Now I am more of a realist than most and when it comes to politics, what can be done is usually determined by the numbers. How many Representatives and Senators along who is president.

Trump, his persona is destroying him with the public at large, especially independents. One expects most Democrats to oppose him, most Republicans to support him as his approval numbers show exactly this. What the polls show however is Trump has lost the support of independents. Trump started out in January with the support of independents, 48-38 approve/disapprove. Today independents give him a 32/51 approve/disapproval rating. Most of Trump's policies independents slightly approve of. It's his persona, behavior, personality that is driving his numbers down and losing independents.

Here's something to look at: 65% of those who disapprove of Trump do so because of his character, personality. Only 16% on the issues/policies.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/214091/t...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Trump isn't going to change. I think he'll have a majority of Americans disapproving of him, opposing him for his term as president. Not necessarily for what he is trying to do, but for how he comes across to the public at large. What his avid supporters love about him, most people don't. His personality grates on them and is slowly losing their support. Sooner or later this lack of support by the public at large will lead to Trump becoming ineffectual if that hasn't begun already. Then as the midterms come closer with Trump still stuck at around 40% approval, give or take, maybe lower even, you'll see a lot of Republicans in congress distancing themselves from him. Self preservation. All because of his personality, his persona as an obnoxious oaf who happens to be president.