Federal Judge To IRS: Reveal The Names Of Those Who Targeted Conservative Organizations .....

What am I obstructing exactly?

 

This is a man unconcerned about the IRS being used as a political weapon.

 

The fact that the IRS is being questioned. You keep trying to derail. Don't worry man, it's 100% expected.

 

That contradicts other statements I've said to the opposite:

I can't help it if you reach conclusions before bothering to learn all the facts.

 

What's 100% expected is that you redefine my position in spite of what I've actually said. You have already convicted the entire agency despite not having all the facts. Unlike you, I am in favor of the investigation and gathering the evidence. I suspect that evidence will show everyone acted according to law, but I'm sure you'll find a way to spin it to another George Soros conspiracy theory or use it to prove the Obama is running a "shadow government."

 

Well, let's get to the bottom of it and punish the guilty.

 

So, the answer is yes, you supported it. Temporary equivocation noted. You have successfully articulated the exact case. Yes, the use of government to enforce a political disadvantage seems perfectly acceptable to you, to include some baseless assertion of "appropriateness" that frankly defies knowledge of our constitutional framework.

And here's the thing. No I wouldn't support the use of the IRS to target ANTIFA folks. I believe that any idiot can say any idiotic thing they wish, and raise funds to do so without the heavy hand of government interfering. I trust the public sufficiently to believe that folks like ANTIFA won't ever gain real traction because they are so transparently being employed by those who are truly fascist in this nation. As they say, facts speak for themselves. And in Antifa's case, loudly.

So, the difference couldn't be more clear. Clearly, you fear the challenge, I don't. And it's your fear that drives you towards the destruction of our rights in this nation. And that, frankly is something that the rest of us just cannot allow to happen.

 

You're obstruction. That's what is expected. And stop acting like you aren't on the front lines screaming about police injustice to blacks like Michael Brown. I've convicted the entire agency because we've known about this since 2012.

 

I smell desperation.

 

They haven't leaked them because there's nothing there.

If there was anything to be had on Trump, Obama would have made sure it got out.

So, they are limited to using shadow puppets and conspiracy theories.

 

The data from the states voter rolls is already public information.

 

There is a specific reason why the list is top heavy with right wing groups.

After Citizen's United allowed unlimited campaign contributions to third party groups, there was a rush to figure out how to get the money in the right hands while concealing where the money was coming from.

This was while the GOP and K Street were setting up the astroturf tea party movement, setting up and seeding tea party groups around the country.

But if you want to appear grass roots, you can't have people finding out that the checks came from the Kochs or from K Street lobbying firms (who were the principal backers of the tea party movement).

So, you look around the IRS code for a loophole.

It is section 501C4, which allowed anonymous contributions to social welfare organizations.

This was what the GOP latched on in order to hide the fact that the "grass roots" tea party movement was actually an orchestrated campaign run out of Washington, DC

The IRS suddenly was deluged with applications for 501c4 charters, a formerly obscure and little used designation. 95% of them were from right wing groups.

There is not, and has never been any evidence that these groups were targeted for political persecution.

There is not, and never has been any evidence that the Obama Adminstration took part in any such political persecution.

There is not, and never has been any evidence that even one tea party or conservative 501c4 group was prevented from conducting its activities, or forced to shut down due to this particular IRS investigation.

Finally, none of these groups actually needed 501c4 status in order to do business. They could have set themselves up many other perfectly legal and uncontroversial ways.

But then, they would have had to file quarterly reports and show where the money was coming from.

And that was the last thing they wanted the "grass roots" to know.

 

Dems are good and repubs are stupid

 

Only data in federal elections

Which trump has every right and a legimate reason to do

 

The IRS has them.

 

Try again.....and remember this time your not out on the schoolyard.

 

Trump's speeches demonstrate that we are in fact out on a political schoolyard.

 

Do they have to reveal the left targeted groups?
I thought more left groups were banned than righties

 

Huh. So you'd be okay with Obama asking for the same thing. Why do I find that hard to believe?

 

Exactly, and as desperate as the left, and Anti Trumpers are. They would have been put out long before now.

 

In that other alternate reality where Earth 2 exists, huh?

 

Great. In four years we'll say we've known about Trump's collusion with Russia since 2016 - I guess we can convict him on that? Weird that you'd turn this thread about the IRS into a conversation about "blacks like Michael Brown." How's that diversion tactic working out for you?

 

Ah, so your theory is that even without the tax exemptions, they "operated normally" evidence to the contrary not withstanding. As with your other assertions, it's jut bold faced pants on fire day it seems.

I'd ask you these questions. For all of those things you so readily take on faith and regurgitate here, Russian collusion etc, it seems exceptionally convenient that just in this case, you are unwilling to engage in the potential for serious abuse here. It truly is convenient. Ignore what you wish, propagate stuff you know is BS, and all around just stir a pot that, at it's base, has nothing but fabrications that seemingly satisfy you. How about this, cite the reason that you believe ms Lerhner had to take the 5th.

 

OIC......does this mean we can't use white chalk?

 

Yep they have to reveal who and why. 426 groups were identified. Nope.....not even close.




–62 had Tea Party or Tea Party Patriots in the name

–An additional 14 had Patriots in the name

–30 groups had 9/12 or Liberty in the name (9/12 refers to groups inspired by conservative television personality Glenn Beck)

In all, 282 conservative groups were on the IRS list, about two-thirds of the total number of groups that got additional scrutiny.

The list also has 67 progressive organizations (16 percent of the total) and 21 nonpartisan civic groups, including three League of Women Voters chapters.

The IRS took a hard look at Friends of Abe, a group for Hollywood conservatives, and at five state chapters of Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom Coalition. But also at LULAC (the League of Latin American Citizens), seven state groups with Progress in their names and two Occupy groups.

The Deerfield Beach, Fla., chapter of the National Council of Jewish Women caught the agency's eye. So did the National Federation of Independent Business and a group recorded simply as The Institute. Thirty-two groups couldn't be identified......snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...se-who-targeted-conservative-organiz-n2371487